Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible
I bought my purely as a bluray player. With no good games out, most of the folks that have bought them were probably for bluray playback. And lets look at the data. Before the PS3 was released, HD DVD was outselling bluray 2-1. One month after the PS3's release bluray was outselling HD DVD 2-1. The PS3 most undoubtedly had a major impact on that. In Europe, the best selling bluray player is the PS3. Disc sales there are 4-1 in blurays favor. In Japan, the PS3 makes up 90% of bluray players sold. Disc sales there are 95-5 in favor of bluray. I am quoting from NDP latest figures. One of the reasons Warner went for bluray was the impact of the PS3. A survey was conduct on bluray.com and a dozen other gaming sites. Over 85% of PS3 owners had purchased at least one bluray disc. So clearly while not all PS3 owners are buying disc, enough are to drive sales.




Well ,this is not really a good example. High end has never been associated with cars. A bluray drive has always been associated with a PS3. You have to make the distinction of which high end your are speaking of, but that is how the market is broken down. High end home audio, High end audio for auto. Both are quite different, and deserve the distinction.



If these brillant claims of player sales didn't impact disc sales, then making the claim is pointless isn't it? You have 600,000 bluray standalones sold, and 800,000 HD DVD players sold. It is pretty difficult for the lower number to outsell the higher number consistantly 2-1 week after week.



I think this is an antiquated way of thinking. Considering that the PS3 is a full profile player, capable of decoding all audio codecs, can be updated wirelessly, has SACD playback and was the cheapest bluray player at that, it was a value that bluray videophiles cannot pass up. Its SACD playback is better than 90% of the SACD players out there, and was engineered by the same guys that developed the SACD format. The PS3 happens to be the most stable bluray player as well. I have never had a single disc frozen in my player. When BD+ was implement, the PS3 handled it better than almost all of the bluray players out there. When it comes to sound and picture quality, the PS3 is always in the top tier of the bluray line of players.
No, the fact that it was such a value is a excellent reflection on the PS3 AND bluray popularity. However, the newer standalones coming out are starting to offer the same level of flexibility as the PS3(though they do not offer SACD playback), and that will definately steal some of the thunder from the PS3. There is a reason that Sound and Vision made the PS3 the product of the year last year.

All good points, but what we seem to have here, is the difference between a conservative and an aggressive estimate... Not including any PS3 sales is conservative, while including all 8 million is very aggressive...

So let's see if I can come up with a more realistic estimate:

Since Blu-Ray discs routinely outsell HD ones 2 to 1 each week.... then that indicates that the PS3 is having some (but not nearly as large an impact as one would expect if 8Million PS3 owners are buying the PS3 to play Blu Ray discs)...

HD Sales = 800,000 Players
Blu-Ray Sales = 600,000 Players + 8,000,000 PS3

So basically a ratio of 1 HD player to just over every 10 Blu-Ray players...

That should transate into disc sales around 10:1 in favour of Blu-Ray, not 2:1....

Which implies that PS3 is effectively contributing about 1M Blu Ray players (HD Players (0.8M)x 2 = 1.6M.... 1.6M - 0.6 (Blu Ray) = 1M PS3 effective contribution)....

Let me know what you think...