Some clips from New Orleans

[markw]

This is a clear cut case where an ounce of prevention could have prevented a ton of cure, but let's get the facts straight.

If you give your child money for new school clothes and he buys comic books, what would you do?

"By 1998, Louisiana's state government had a $2 billion construction budget, but less than one tenth of one percent of that -- $1.98 million -- was dedicated to levee improvements in the New Orleans area."

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.as...20050907a.html

But, to say the feds weren't getting to the heart of the matter would be a misstatement.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...ck=1&cset=true

As for the evacuation plans, well... "FEMA provides free training, education, assistance and respond in case of an emergency, but the local and state officials run their own emergency management program."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05249/566101.stm

And, as for the evacuation itself: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3344347

Considering that nagin didn't call for a mandatory evacuation until 10:00 pm on Sunday, September 29th, I'd say that the federal government did a pretty good job of procuring 500 buses in two days, That's pretty short notice.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/3...a.refugees.ap/

Now, for the life of me, I cannot understand why Governer Blanco couldn't draft school busses from other school districts earlier ...or arrange for auditoriums, civic centers and the like within the state to be open for the "evacuees" ahead of time. After all, that IS her job. ..and Nagins too.

Instead, they did a Vinnie Babarino ("I'm so Confused!") and dropped it all into the Fed's lap.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...bilities_x.htm

Now, this cracks me up.

"There was a delay while Blanco and the White House grappled over whether to turn over law enforcement authority to the federal government, and whether all Guard troops should be put under federal control — both of which the governor resisted"

Ya can't have it both ways, honey. You two clowns blew it. Now get out of the way and let the pros do their job.

Sure, it's easy, fun and en vogus to dump on Bush, FEMA and co., but in all reality, the locals shold have done their part to evacuate their own.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

This is a clear cut case where an ounce of prevention could have prevented a ton of cure, but let's get the facts straight.

If you give your child money for new school clothes and he buys comic books, what would you do?

"By 1998, Louisiana's state government had a $2 billion construction budget, but less than one tenth of one percent of that -- $1.98 million -- was dedicated to levee improvements in the New Orleans area."

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.as...20050907a.html

But, to say the feds weren't getting to the heart of the matter would be a misstatement.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...ck=1&cset=true

As for the evacuation plans, well... "FEMA provides free training, education, assistance and respond in case of an emergency, but the local and state officials run their own emergency management program."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05249/566101.stm

And, as for the evacuation itself: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3344347

Considering that nagin didn't call for a mandatory evacuation until 10:00 pm on Sunday, September 29th, I'd say that the federal government did a pretty good job of procuring 500 buses in two days, That's pretty short notice.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/3...a.refugees.ap/

Now, for the life of me, I cannot understand why Governer Blanco couldn't draft school busses from other school districts earlier ...or arrange for auditoriums, civic centers and the like within the state to be open for the "evacuees" ahead of time. After all, that IS her job. ..and Nagins too.

Instead, they did a Vinnie Babarino ("I'm so Confused!") and dropped it all into the Fed's lap.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...bilities_x.htm

Now, this cracks me up.

"There was a delay while Blanco and the White House grappled over whether to turn over law enforcement authority to the federal government, and whether all Guard troops should be put under federal control — both of which the governor resisted"

Ya can't have it both ways, honey. You two clowns blew it. Now get out of the way and let the pros do their job.

Sure, it's easy, fun and en vogus to dump on Bush, FEMA and co., but in all reality, the locals shold have done their part to evacuate their own.

Mark,
You can point to all of the newspaper articles you desire, but my experience has taught me than none of the resource comes without some sort of slant to it. Even our news here has a slant to it. I just prefer to watch what I see on my monitors, that has proven to be much more enlightening than any newspaper article.

[markw]

Mark,
You can point to all of the newspaper articles you desire, but my experience has taught me than none of the resource comes without some sort of slant to it. Even our news here has a slant to it. I just prefer to watch what I see on my monitors, that has proven to be much more enlightening than any newspaper article.

So, are you saying these links are untrue?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

So, are you saying these links are untrue?

Some true, some incomplete, and some slanted.

[markw]

Some true, some incomplete, and some slanted.

We could pretty much say this about anything the media posts, true? I guess the "truth" is where one chooses to see it.

Remember, your "monitors" onbly show you select scenes that your cameramen deemed worthy of shooting, and these would be those scenes that would play on easy emotions to rile up, not unlike those black looter/white opportunist photos in your other thread that had you in an uproar except you would like to see bush as the looter and the local politicos as the opportunists.

Now is the time to get to the bottom of this, unless you are a Bush supporter. In that case, later probably would work for you..

Why would this work to the advantage of Bush supporters? This merely shows your anti Bush bias is affecting your thoughts.

It seems you would rather overlook any possibilities that there may have been more people and agencies responsible for this snafu than Bush and would rather everyone else ignored that possibility as well.

You're a little too judgmental on this. It's best to wait for the truth, the whole truth.

There's already indictments out for some of the NOLA cronies for kerfutzing around the federal FEMA funds from well before this incident. You don't see that that may well have had a big impact on what went down here?

No, first get NOLA running and then sort it out. Maybe they will find some of that missing FEMA money and apply it where it belongs, mainly on the levees.

I must say, Sir T, that I'm a little disappointed in that you seem to be letting your personal bias get in the way of rational thought on political matters brought up here lately.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

We could pretty much say this about anything the media posts, true? I guess the "truth" is where one chooses to see it.

If you pay attention to the media, this is true.

Remember, your "monitors" onbly show you select scenes that your cameramen deemed worthy of shooting, and these would be those scenes that would play on easy emotions to rile up, not unlike those black looter/white opportunist photos in your other thread that had you in an uproar except you would like to see bush as the looter and the local politicos as the opportunists.

Mark, asssumptions are both harmful and unproductive. What I saw on my monitiors were live feeds, uncut, unstaged(except the interviews) and much of it never was seen on network or cable television because it would be deemed inflammatory. How do you know what I would like to see? Do you have special gifts you haven't told us about?

Why would this work to the advantage of Bush supporters? This merely shows your anti Bush bias is affecting your thoughts.

This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it whether its totally wrong, or right. The reasons why this would work for Bush supporters is fairly easy to figure out.

It seems you would rather overlook any possibilities that there may have been more people and agencies responsible for this snafu than Bush and would rather everyone else ignored that possibility as well.

Once again, you do not know what I would rather overlook or choose to see. More assumptions. I recognized that there are many layers to this cake. Several layers failed, one layer totally, and continued to make mistake after mistake.

You're a little too judgmental on this. It's best to wait for the truth, the whole truth.

Perhaps I am not judgemental enough. We have seen some truths already, and more to come. I am not one to look away when some things are fairly obvious.

There's already indictments out for some of the NOLA cronies for kerfutzing around the federal FEMA funds from well before this incident. You don't see that that may well have had a big impact on what went down here?

No. The hurricane came through on Sunday, FEMA came on friday. FEMA was disorganized, and according to 31 out of 39 FEMA departments heads, FEMA was paying more attention to terrorism and not enough to natural diasters. That's a fact, and part of what contributed to their sorry response. Bush installed one of his cronies to head FEMA, he had no experience whatsoever in handling diasters of any nature. This is the result of that kind of cronism, hundreds have died. Some things are obvious and in your face and very tough to overlook. Do you see what FEMA is doing in Florida right now? That is what they SHOULD have done in NO

No, first get NOLA running and then sort it out. Maybe they will find some of that missing FEMA money and apply it where it belongs, mainly on the levees.

Are we so stupid that we cannot do more than one thing at a time? FEMA money doesn't pay for levee's unfortunately.

I must say, Sir T, that I'm a little disappointed in that you seem to be letting your personal bias get in the way of rational thought on political matters brought up here lately.

Oh geeze, I may not get any sleep tonight, Mark is disappointed in me. I am sorry you are disappointed that I don't agree with you. I guess if I don't, then I am wrong. It seems that you are doing the same thing you are accusing me of. Your personal bias is allowing you to overlook the obvious. Your opinions of my thoughts are noted, and forgotten. Let us agree to disagree. I don't think you and I will never see eye to eye on this. I think we come from opposite sides of the political fence. I just like everyone else in this country, we are probably too polarized in our opinions to ever come to an agreement.

[Florian]

If the voters would have gotten what they voted for, America wouldnt have this sorry excuse for a president sitting tight in the white house. And no daddys who shake hands and make oil deals with the Bin Ladens. Well, the only good thing about is that he cant be reelected.This moron walks into Iraq, Afganistan is responsible for terror attacks worldwide. Leaves hundreds of thousands without home, doesnt find Bin Laden, doesnt find nuclear weapons, threatens Noth Korea, and doesnt join the rest of the worl in the Koyoto protocol and wonders about storms.... Man this guy is so bloddy stupid!!!!

-Flo