Some clips from New Orleans

[Resident Loser]

...exactly WHO did you folks elect...

Wanna' start on how F*cked-up Europe is...and has been through history...Lessee...how many wars have there been? the Seven Years War, the Thirty Years War, the Hundred Years War, the War of the Roses, The Carolingian Succession, the War of Spanish Succession, The War of Austrian Succession, The English Civil War, the French Revolutionary wars, the Napoleonic Wars, the Crimean War ,The Franco Prussian War, the Spanish Civil War and then when there didn't seem to be enough warfare on the continent proper, countries like Germany began to export the Art of War(after all only that sort of history could raise it to an artform) to Africa in the Maji-Maji Revolt or the Herero War and then of course the Boer War, Of course we can't leave out the family-feud to end all family-feuds WWl...remember that bit of fun from all those inbred @$$holes...trench-warfare, machine guns, tanks, mustard gas...and who can forget BLITZKREIG! and V-1s, buzz-bombs...Zylon and the ghetto and the Final Solution......then on the political side there's feudalism, and anarchy, and communism, and socialism, and Mussolini, Franco and good ol' uncle Adolph...some other nifty exports like world colonialism and all it entails, the decimation of the native peoples in the Americas by disease, and the introduction of slavery into the New World, and the Crusades, and Edith Piaf, and Ikea and heroin.

And if you wanna' start on world terrorism, I'd suggest you go back to things like the Balfour Document and the partiton of the Holy Land, all administered by Euro-friggin-peans...In fact, one could easily make an argument that Israel itself, or the need and want for a Jewish homeland, is the product of every European Jew who was ostricized, ghetto-ized, marginalized or exiled down through European history. In essence we have YOU to thank for the current state of affairs. The U.S. involvement with Israel is an unfortunate by-product of the cold war imbalance created by Russia's support of Egypt, which we viewed as having dire consequences for the region in general and Europe as a whole...

And this is the thanks we get, you Teutontic twit?

So why not go and stick your head back up your @$$ and rave on about your highly tweaked, non-stock loudspeakers...

jimHJJ(...Spam anyone?...)

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Blaming FEMA is shallow. Yes they screwed up. But again -

Why would it be shallow to blame FEMA?. Here is their history.

http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtm

This sentence is particulary telling.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency - a former independent agency that became part of the new Department of Homeland Security in March 2003 - is tasked with responding to, planning for, recovering from and mitigating against disasters. [/quote]

If they had responded to, or planned for this diaster like they are currently doing in Florida, it wouldn't have been the travesty this turned out to be. Had FEMA balanced their approach evenly between terrorism AND natural disasters, maybe their response wouldn't have been so poor. Maybe if FEMA had the former chief instead of the inexperienced Brown, them their response would have been different. However when you start off with a inexperienced leader, and the thrust of your prepared directed towards terrorism, then one can only expect just what we got.



WHY WERE ALL THOSE POOR PEOPLE STILL THERE?

Many were sick, as a matter of fact CNN, Fox news along with ABC, CBS and every other news agency are all reporting that it was mostly the sick and shut in that perished in the flood. Others didn't want to go, or didn't have the means to go. Mandory evacuations are not inforced, a practice I hope changes after this mess.

Where were the emergency stocks of food, water, basic medicine?

That's what FEMA is for. Read their history, then ask them where were they.

T the real reason for waiting on the inquiry is simple: those who will be called before Congress are kinda busy right now.

Pete

Pete, is Bush not on the front lines passing out food and water, arrainging housing and the needs of the people hands on. He is busy making trips, shaking hands, and smiling at the worst time imagineable. Brown is fired, Nagin might be too busy, and so would the Governer. However, none of these people are on the front lines, they should and could be called before congress. Bush would never do it though, never!

Lets face it, the more time that has passed, the more everyone forgets. This has already dropped off the front page of the newspaper, and is not leading any local or network newscasts. As time passes, this event will be replaced by another one. This one will be forgotten, and so will the people affected by it. Now is the time unless you DO NOT want to really get to the bottom of this. This should be top priority because face it, we do not know when the next disaster will come. It could be tomorrow.

[Florian]

Hahah, well i am german and can't vote. Besides i think that Kerry is a moron too, but the lesser of two evils :-)

For me its simple. If a huge storm hits and basically wipes out an entire state/city than it is the job of the leader of the country to get off his ass from one of many holidays and go there in person to help the people.

But what does this moron do, he knows the storm is coming and sipped on another drink while on holiday. Doesnt do ****, takes forever to get funds and then blames other organizations. Who the hell cares about FEMA. Its a national distaster for ****s sacke!, damn lamer President get off your ass and do something about it.

That fool was faster in getting money and sending 1000's of troops to Iraq then to help his own people. The stupid Homeland security is a simple way of abusing the americans in their feer and to gain more power than that dictator in russia.

Italy, Germany, France, England and bloddy cuba offered help and he rejected it. They accepted the first 66.6% and denied the other 33.3% cause of fear of faulty food. Yeah right, its the same damn thing the american troops are eating in iraq right now.

I tell you what happend, this bloddy fool wasted all the money on the most pointless war ever, created terrorism around the globe and gets his daddy richer.

-Flo

PS: Can you tell i dont like Bush

[Florian]

To Resident Looser:

I know the USA never has done anything wrong, and Bush is a good person. Just remember this!!!

[Florian]

...exactly WHO did you folks elect...

Wanna' start on how F*cked-up Europe is...and has been through history...Lessee...how many wars have there been? the Seven Years War, the Thirty Years War, the Hundred Years War, the War of the Roses, The Carolingian Succession, the War of Spanish Succession, The War of Austrian Succession, The English Civil War, the French Revolutionary wars, the Napoleonic Wars, the Crimean War ,The Franco Prussian War, the Spanish Civil War and then when there didn't seem to be enough warfare on the continent proper, countries like Germany began to export the Art of War(after all only that sort of history could raise it to an artform) to Africa in the Maji-Maji Revolt or the Herero War and then of course the Boer War, Of course we can't leave out the family-feud to end all family-feuds WWl...remember that bit of fun from all those inbred @$$holes...trench-warfare, machine guns, tanks, mustard gas...and who can forget BLITZKREIG! and V-1s, buzz-bombs...Zylon and the ghetto and the Final Solution......then on the political side there's feudalism, and anarchy, and communism, and socialism, and Mussolini, Franco and good ol' uncle Adolph...some other nifty exports like world colonialism and all it entails, the decimation of the native peoples in the Americas by disease, and the introduction of slavery into the New World, and the Crusades, and Edith Piaf, and Ikea and heroin.

And if you wanna' start on world terrorism, I'd suggest you go back to things like the Balfour Document and the partiton of the Holy Land, all administered by Euro-friggin-peans...In fact, one could easily make an argument that Israel itself, or the need and want for a Jewish homeland, is the product of every European Jew who was ostricized, ghetto-ized, marginalized or exiled down through European history. In essence we have YOU to thank for the current state of affairs. The U.S. involvement with Israel is an unfortunate by-product of the cold war imbalance created by Russia's support of Egypt, which we viewed as having dire consequences for the region in general and Europe as a whole...

And this is the thanks we get, you Teutontic twit?

So why not go and stick your head back up your @$$ and rave on about your highly tweaked, non-stock loudspeakers...

jimHJJ(...Spam anyone?...)

Haha the typical excuse.. Europe is soooo bad, it justifies our own stupidity in america. Get real, and learn from other mistakes.

BTW.....i just mention Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Bin Laden, Blakan Islands etc..... the USA has more blood on their hands in the short time than us in all the years.!!!

And the Nazi support that the USA enjoyed, the nice technology and scienetists and Nazi chefs which got asylum in the US cause they profit from it.

You voted for Bush, and are trying to tell me it was a good reaction. Yeah right!!

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Haha the typical excuse from a redneck. Europe is soooo bad, it justifies our own stupidity in america. Get real, and learn from other mistakes.

BTW.....i just mention Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Bin Laden, Blakan Islands etc..... the USA has more blood on their hands in the short time than us in all the years.!!!

And the Nazi support that the USA enjoyed, the nice technology and scienetists and Nazi chefs which got asylum in the US cause they profit from it.

You voted for Bush, and are trying to tell me it was a good reaction. Yeah right!!

Flo, I know you have strong emotions about this, but Redneck is not cool. We do not all agree on everything, but let's not reduce this to a bunch of name calling.

[Florian]

Its been removed.

PS: Thanks for mentioning my loudspeakers. Dont worry about it, you dont know what your missing so its not all that bad for you.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Its been removed.

PS: Thanks for mentioning my loudspeakers. Dont worry about it, you dont know what your missing so its not all that bad for you.

Thanks Flo!

[piece-it pete]

Sorry Flor, I thought you were American. I'm constantly amazed at the vitrol spewing forth from Europe towards us. Try paying your fair share of world security and I'll give your opinion more weight.

Boy T, we must enjoy this (arguing, not NO). Maybe we're just gluttons for punishment .

Why would it be shallow to blame FEMA?. Here is their history.

http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtm

This sentence is particulary telling.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency - a former independent agency that became part of the new Department of Homeland Security in March 2003 - is tasked with responding to, planning for, recovering from and mitigating against disasters.

If they had responded to, or planned for this diaster like they are currently doing in Florida, it wouldn't have been the travesty this turned out to be. Had FEMA balanced their approach evenly between terrorism AND natural disasters, maybe their response wouldn't have been so poor. Maybe if FEMA had the former chief instead of the inexperienced Brown, them their response would have been different. However when you start off with a inexperienced leader, and the thrust of your prepared directed towards terrorism, then one can only expect just what we got.

So local planning and execution is up to the Feds?! When did THAT happen?

Agreed it would have been nice to have a competent person in charge of FEMA. It also appears that this caught everyone flat-footed. If this shows anything, it's that the old saying: Familiarity breeds Contempt - is true.

Terrorism was at the forefront of everyone's mind.

WHY WERE ALL THOSE POOR PEOPLE STILL THERE?

Many were sick, as a matter of fact CNN, Fox news along with ABC, CBS and every other news agency are all reporting that it was mostly the sick and shut in that perished in the flood. Others didn't want to go, or didn't have the means to go. Mandory evacuations are not inforced, a practice I hope changes after this mess.

I thought it was the poor and/or minorities as well? Same deal as the buses - many ambulances sitting unused. No matter how you slice it, the local and state gov't failed their people miserably. Mandatory evacuations will be a disaster unto itself - just wait till the National Guard shoots someone.

That's what FEMA is for. Read their history, then ask them where were they.

When a tree falls on my house, I'll call them.

Pete, is Bush not on the front lines passing out food and water, arrainging housing and the needs of the people hands on. He is busy making trips, shaking hands, and smiling at the worst time imagineable. Brown is fired, Nagin might be too busy, and so would the Governer. However, none of these people are on the front lines, they should and could be called before congress. Bush would never do it though, never!

Lets face it, the more time that has passed, the more everyone forgets. This has already dropped off the front page of the newspaper, and is not leading any local or network newscasts. As time passes, this event will be replaced by another one. This one will be forgotten, and so will the people affected by it. Now is the time unless you DO NOT want to really get to the bottom of this. This should be top priority because face it, we do not know when the next disaster will come. It could be tomorrow.

Right now, the gov't on top of the other 5 million very important things they have to do is busy trying to figure out the best way to a) finish cleaning out NO, and b) rebuilding it, along with the oil support and the port itself. Not simple, not easy. Anyone who thinks the top echelon of our gov't has free time right now is not understanding what has/is happened/happening. Generals do not fight in the trenches.

Certainly no one really believes the entire system isn't being overhauled as we speak?? Not just a human disaster, it is also a political one, from top to bottom on every level. I'm sure most politicos actually care about the dead, and I'm positive they ALL want to be popular!

Heaven forbid it should be tomorrow. Seems like a good time to pray.

Pete

[piece-it pete]

BTW.....i just mention Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Bin Laden, Blakan Islands etc..... the USA has more blood on their hands in the short time than us in all the years.!!!

Better crack a history book there Flor.

Pete

[Florian]

Absolutly not!

The Atomic bombs, invasion of iraq, threats to North Korea, Invasion of Afganistan etc... add all that up and your not too far away from my past ancestors.

Anyway, i dont care how much weight you give my opinion. We do more for the well being and safety of this world than the US. Too many people in the US still think we are in the cold war still. LOL.....

-Flo

PS: Besides its your own stupidity, you guys trained Bin Laden to fight the war against the russians. Too bad the FALSE American PRIDE gets in the way. But i dont blame the people, afterall 54% are against the war and didnt want Bush in the first place.

[Resident Loser]

...European history justifies anything we may have done...no, no Euro-trash, it's all in our genes and s a great many of us are of European descent...do I have to draw you a picture? We just managed to escape the continent, not the genetic material...perhaps you simply don't grasp the concept of the pot calling the kettle black, quite surprising for the master race and all...

Out of curiosity, adzswipe, do you know what a 'redneck' is? or do you get your vast puddle of knowledge of American life via old "Dukes of Hazzard" re-runs and MacDonalds adverts?

"...learn from other mistakes..."

Yep, you're quite right mein little schnitzel...George Washington, in his farewell, advised us to "avoid foreign entanglements" we shoulda' listened and not let Wilson drag us into savin' your bacon...not just once, but twice...oh. oh...I'm sorry, we didn't save YOUR bacon particularly we just helped kick your ass...but that's when war was considered art...

"...Nazi support that the USA enjoyed..."

Oh, like Von Braun and the boys...just think how different the world might be if Russia had gotten' them first...East Germany and the Berlin Wall would have been like a tea-party...

I see you conveniently ignored the second paragraph...any glib responses to that Bismarck...

And if you can't(or won't) respond, just explain why putting caraway seeds into it makes it Bavarian sauerkraut...

jimHJJ(...that shouldn't tax your abilities too much...)

[markw]

Within this past week I've learned that you blame white people for all the problems in this country and Bush for everything that has ever gone wrong with Katrina. Nobody else had a hand in the Katrina fiasco at all.

I'm sure glad you're not prejudiced. I'd hate to see what you would be like if you were.

so long and thanks for the fish. It's been enlightening.

And Flo, thanks for giving the world Hitler. You DO know Hitler was working on an atomic bomb when the war ended, don't ya? The only reason he didn't use it first is because the US and Russia took the wind out of your sails and he didn't get a chance to finish it. We did...

England can also thank your countries skills in designing rockets to rain down destruction on civilian targets. But what the heck, after what you guys did to the Jews, that's chump change.

Oh. along with cars, Mercedes also made quite efficient gas nozzles for the concentration camps. How many Jews per gallon did you guys get?

http://www.antisemitismus.net/deutschland/ulmer.htm

How's that 18% unemployment rate going? ain't socialism grand?

[Florian]

WoW, it took you 30 minutes to write tha! Properbly the old 2 finger system. Well dont worry, it matches your 2 brain cells.

So i am a Nazi, Eurotrash etc.... good job. I am glad that you passed at least the second grade in Highschool! Puts you on the same level as donkey.

I know you can judge me, afterall your the world police and can judge all people. Man i wish i lived more than 6 years in the USA! I miss this extreme shortsightetness.

-Happy living....just wait till north Korea pushed the little red button, or until Florida and New York gets blown to pieces.

Life in fear is great, i know. Call Bush and ask him to join you in the bunker below your home with the loaded 12 gauge from Wallmart...

LOL

[markw]

You seem proud that you killed millions of people in WW2.

We did it regretfully. You did it cheerfully.

That's the difference between us.

Oh, rejoice. Anti-semetisim still isn't dead in Germany. You may still have a chance since deep down inside you know you to want to align yourself with those rogus countries.

http://www.antisemitismus.net/deutschland/ulmer.htm

[Florian]

Hey buddy look, this killed millions more than your A-Bombs....

Wow...its a ship!

[Florian]

Within this past week I've learned that you blame white people for all the problems in this country and Bush for everything that has ever gone wrong with Katrina. Nobody else had a hand in the Katrina fiasco at all.

I'm sure glad you're not prejudiced. I'd hate to see what you would be like if you were.

so long and thanks for the fish. It's been enlightening.

And Flo, thanks for giving the world Hitler. You DO know Hitler was working on an atomic bomb when the war ended, don't ya? The only reason he didn't use it first is because the US and Russia took the wind out of your sails and he didn't get a chance to finish it. We did...

England can also thank your countries skills in designing rockets to rain down destruction on civilian targets. But what the heck, after what you guys did to the Jews, that's chump change.

Oh. along with cars, Mercedes also made quite efficient gas nozzles for the concentration camps. How many Jews per gallon did you guys get?

How's that 18% unemployment rate going? ain't socialism grand?

Wow,....****ing funny this ****. You fit the description of a Nazi much more than me.

Rule Nr.1

1. If i hate all white people, i cant be a Nazi in the first place.
2. My past happend when i was not born, so i cant be at fault.
3. We may have 18%, but still better than having a 34% illetracy rate, racism, and 52% working and living under our social service services.

[Florian]

Your not one bit better then the people who lived in germany before me. Not one BIT !!!
At least i learn from my mistakes, your so bloddy dumb you do it over and over again!

[markw]

Know why? We cut your balls off after WW2.

Now go take over France again. This time we'll let you keep 'em.

Yep, you area little nazi. or at least a wannabe from your posts here.

[Resident Loser]

... I'm holding up two fingers right now...can you guess which ones?

Still ignoring the premise of my second paragraph I see.

BTW, I don't live on the internet, nor do I await your missives with bated breath, in hushed tones...I do other, more semi-important things.

BTW redux, The photo you provided looks suspiciously like a hydrogen bomb test...we dropped two ATOMIC bombs on Japan...just thought I'd clear that up.

BTW yet again, you are the only one who has used the word "Nazi" so if the shoe fits...

jimHJJ(...or jackboot if you prefer...)

[Florian]

HAHAHA......after the people took over most of the continent you get your boys coming in with russia and england and win after a long hard battle. Try to tell it to all the people laying in Washington.

You are sooooo good......


I am so proud to be an American. WE ARE THE BEST!!!

[Florian]

Your not one bit better then the people who lived in germany before me. Not one BIT !!!
At least i learn from the mistakes the people before me did, your so bloddy dumb you do it over and over again!

[kexodusc]

What in the blue hell ???
Aldo? That you?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Within this past week I've learned that you blame white people for all the problems in this country and Bush for everything that has ever gone wrong with Katrina. Nobody else had a hand in the Katrina fiasco at all.

Well, it looks like you haven't learned a thing this week. You have wasted your time. what a shame.

I'm sure glad you're not prejudiced. I'd hate to see what you would be like if you were.

Well, if I was, I would talk about the fact that this country has never had a president that was either female, or of color. I would talk about segregation which was initiated by whites, and maintained by whites. I would talk about institutional racism which persists even to this day. I would talk about the inequities in pay, health care, education, and the justice system. I would point out that blacks didn't create segregation, they were victims of it. I would point out that blacks or anyone else didn't get a chance to participate in the writing of the declaration of independence, didn't participate in the creation of the education system, justice system, congress, the senate or any branch of the government. No wonder it fails everyone but the folks that designed it.

so long and thanks for the fish. It's been enlightening.

Make sure you bake it rather than fry it. Its been enlightening for both of us.

[piece-it pete]

You can call me a redneck, I don't mind. Just don't call me - late for dinner [groan].

Absolutly not!

The Atomic bombs, invasion of iraq, threats to North Korea, Invasion of Afganistan etc... add all that up and your not too far away from my past ancestors.

Oh yeah? Wellll.... BUUZZZZZZ - WRONG! Not even close. And don't forget, the bomb was dropped as a direct result of Der Fuehrers' absolute, naked (not even a sock!) war of aggression.

I suppose we should join N Korea in an embrace of brotherly love while dancing a tango with the Taliban.

Anyway, i dont care how much weight you give my opinion. We do more for the well being and safety of this world than the US. Too many people in the US still think we are in the cold war still. LOL.....

Nah, the cold wars' over, we won it. As far as helping and safety, examples please.

PS: Besides its your own stupidity, you guys trained Bin Laden to fight the war against the russians. Too bad the FALSE American PRIDE gets in the way. But i dont blame the people, afterall 54% are against the war and didnt want Bush in the first place.

Bin Laden will get his. My pride isn't false, I assure you. Bush won with a majority.

In a perhaps vain attempt to bring this thread back to a semblence of topic, I'll point out a couple misconceptions I've noticed Europeans have about Americans. Heck some Americans don't know this.

The "biggest" is, Size. Area. The US encompasses 3,539,227 sq mi (9,166,598 sq km). My State, Ohio, one of 50, has 41,222 sq mi (106,765 sq km). Germany in comparison has 137,699 sq mi (356,733 sq km). No, I'm not saying we're better than you.

So what? It means government HAS to be set up differently. Consider: "The United STATES of America". State:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...onary&va=state

5 a : a politically organized body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially : one that is sovereign
______

A sovereign state = a nation. The US is 50 sovereign nations that grouped together and ceded certain powers to the federation (the Federal Gov't).

This has been very successful for us. It is also why Louisianas' Governor is directly responsible for New Orleans, NOT the President.

Who btw does not take the kind of holidays you imagine. Even Clinton had to be blown at his desk!

The next big thing Europeans don't understand: You'all think American conservatives are born evil. I got news for you: we have to work at it.

Pete