Some clips from New Orleans

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I think if true that shows the truth that much of this issue falls squarely on the locals.

Sorry Pete, I don't buy it. Do you see what is happening in Florida and Texas? FEMA has helicopters, food, water, buses, and shelters READY BEFORE the storm hit. That was not done for NO. There was no food or water for those at the convention center, or the superdome. That could have been flown in immediately after the storm passed, not five days later. There were no helicopters waiting, no buses, and no response for FIVE days. Coodination between the local(who where obviously overwhelmed) and FEMA was non existant, which is not the case in Florida and Texas.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/chitribts/20...tweenthecracks

The state of Florida does a great job preparing for the hurricanes. Jeb has a lot to do with it, he seems to be an excellent administrator. If LA had done as well the subsequent flubs of FEMA wouldn't have been much of an issue.

Pete, he is prepared because of the help of FEMA. They had four hurricanes go through there in 2004, so they are well versed in being prepared for this. Jeb doesn't deserve any credit for this, they have a long history of hurricanes in that state. But keep in mind, when FEMA fails, it can be disasterous to the recovery after a diaster. It took 5 days for FEMA to act after hurricane andrew, and that may have cost elder Bush his re-election. There are stiking simularities between FEMA inept response after andrew, and after katrina.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...301653_pf.html

You mean to pull Bush in front of a Congressional inquiry?! He'll never do that. When I said generals I meant the folks directly in charge, the people who should have the real answers to what happened and how to fix it.

He took responsibility, he should go himself. He hired Brown with the full knowledge that he had no experience. He folded FEMA into homeland security, a department that is totally pre-occupied with terrorism. Lets face it, we have more hurricanes than terror attacks in this country.

Clinton personally committed perjury while a sitting President. There was not a disaster like NO going on, the ME is ALWAYS messed up.

Bush lied to America, and to the world on WMD in Iraq. He knew the evidence was flimsy, but he told Colin Powell to bring it before the UN anyway. So who was more agregious? A man getting a knob job in the white house, or a man making a knowingly poor deciscion that has cost over 1900 lives? That answer is pretty clear to me.

Boy, pretty soon we'll stop spelling out words and talk in abbr, NO, LA, ME, FEMA, lol.

LOL. I think a whole knew language could be created in abbreviations.

Well it's partisan - as in 11 Republicans. Not because the Dems weren't invited, but 'cause they're boycotting:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email

I think they are right for boycotting. Can your really trust a republican led(or any party led) investigation into a republican presidents appointee? It should be a independent investigation with both parties agreeing on who leads the investigation. If I were the demo's I wouldn't trust the repub for a second. And if the tide was in reverse, I still wouldn't trust any party to fairly investigate a member of their own party.

One of the reasons I am conservative is that I don't have faith in people, and systems are built by them.

Well said, and I'd like to add that I don't have faith in the people that run the system either.

What I am saying is one would have to be mighty hard-hearted to not feel anything looking at the victims, and I'm sure more than the usual number (however small) actually care.

I wouldn't say they are hard hearted, just not touched by it. If there is no press, no cash, no possible vote, then I don't think it gets their attention. There are perhaps some exceptions, but I have mostly seen aloofness.

I hope we're righteous then!

http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atl...der_large.html

Pete

I think so.