Quote Originally Posted by markw
Heck, even a lot of whites don't succeed.
Yes, but that is their choice. Minorities are not afforded that choice.

Blacks are getting through, though. I haven't done the numbers but from what see in many offices in there a lot of blacks as well as Indians, Asians and the like. A lot of women are rising too, particularly black women. ALatinos are jusrt really entering that area and are even as we speak working their way up the ladder. You don't expect then to start at the top, do ya?
Mark, you are looking in your own world. The larger picture does not bare this out. The reality is blacks are starting their own business at more than 6 times whites, and 2 times latino and asian. They are doing this to get out of corporate America with its glass ceiling on minorities. They are doing it because they are frustrated with the system as it is currently designed, and want to take their future in their own hands. That is exactly what I did, and when I did well, I went back to the corporate world. Being independently empowered meant that I didn't need to excel in a system that was slanted towards one segment of our population.



One thing I DO notice is that, in the world of big business, everyone speaks English. Well, except for down neck (Newark) where the Portugese and Brasilians have their own little sub-culture thing going. People can be born, live their lives and die there without speaking English there. But, if they want to leave for bigger and better things, they have to do things somewhat different. ...learn English for one.
Mark, blacks know english. Many latino's know english. Knowing english doesn't deal with institutional racism. Just knowing english doesn't level the playing field.

That's a good place to start when blending into society. Speaking the language and fitting in. Playing the game. It 's done by everyone. Why should someone get a free ride just because they don't speak the same language or have a different culture which, BTW, has no bearing in the workplace. If they tried to force mainstream big business to speak their language and adapt to their customs, they would still be on the outside looking in.
You have addressed foreigners, what about minorities born in this country. Their first langauge is english. Why hasn't there been a latino president, or a black one? Why is it taking so long for english speaking minorities to get positions of power in the same degree as whites? This is not a language issue, its racism, fear, and ignorance of minorities.

It's not like the school systems don't offer enough classes in how to speak proper English. I'm ofthe mindthat this bi-lingual crap has pretty much ruined the school system. Heck, teach then the language over a year ot two and then mainline 'em. They don't do that crap in other countries. Why here?
Did whites learn the language of the Indians when they came here? Or did they come here and force the Indians to learn theirs. This is what I mean by changing the rules.


If that's too much for some people then they will have to do like they do down neck. Remain in their own little corner of the world and marinate in their culture.
Whites didn't do that when they came here. No, they forced everyone to do what they do.

and, don't feel bad. my resume gets "lost" because of all the experience I had. ...either that or it's because I'm too old. Nah.... never happen.
How do they know how old you are? The bottom line is that the resume' were trashed because you have to have a "white" or mainstream names to get the interview. Why do minorities have to shed every piece of their culture and indentity just to get a job? Whites don't have to do it.