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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    Bush's NeoCon credentials were well established in 1999. How come an ignorant foreigner like me saw perfectly well that he has going to bngger you guys and the rest of us? Appearances were all you Americans need, but you stupidly chose to ignore every sign.

    And as for 2003, shame, shame, shame on you. The world says except no smirk.
    I don't see any good advise in this. I don't know what "bngger" means, but this post sounds like someone who has a deep seated disdain for us Americans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I don't see any good advise in this. I don't know what "bngger" means, but this post sounds like someone who has a deep seated disdain for us Americans...
    Fine, that was a nasty post.... and based on the tone I'm going to assume it was part of a quarrel... Posts made during quarrels are not always the best reflection of what someone really thinks...

    I've seen (and to some extent been involved in) some of the political exchanges between you and Feanor... Feanor has a lot of very strong opinions on American Politics and you 'appear' to dislike hearing foreigners' opinions on your country... This is a perfect recipe for misunderstandings...

    I don't think Feanor hates Americans... What happens in America affects all of us foreigners and so we watch your elections and politics with held breath, hoping that we won't all get screwed if the American public votes for the wrong guy... America is like the musclebound jock in high school... if he chooses to use his brain and be a nice guy, then he can be a role model to the whole school, but if he decides to be a bully then everyone starts hiding...

    You need to understand that there is a difference between hating someone and just being afraid of what they might do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    Fine, that was a nasty post.... and based on the tone I'm going to assume it was part of a quarrel... Posts made during quarrels are not always the best reflection of what someone really thinks...
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    Yes, a bit nasty in tone. I apologize for the tone but not the substance. My message is simply that American should have know better than to vote for Dubyah the first time, much less the second time.

    I am, overall, a great admirer of the United States of America. Thus I hold the country and its leadership to a high standard. Strong criticism of the US against a very high standard may be equated to mild criticism of a country of lessor stature against a much lower standard. But seemly some Americans feel it is presumptuous that their country should be criticized at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    Yes, a bit nasty in tone. I apologize for the tone but not the substance. My message is simply that American should have know better than to vote for Dubyah the first time, much less the second time.
    You do that a lot. But only when it's pointed out to you.

    We voted for Bush because Bill Clinton and his wife were/are sleazy liars. They painted a really bad picture of the Democratic party.

    And thanks for making me fail on my New Years resolution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor
    I am, overall, a great admirer of the United States of America. Thus I hold the country and its leadership to a high standard. Strong criticism of the US against a very high standard may be equated to mild criticism of a country of lessor stature against a much lower standard. But seemly some Americans feel it is presumptuous that their country should be criticized at all.
    Baffling us with bullsh!t.

    Not presumptuous on my part. Big difference between flat out personally attacking the American populous and criticizing the country. But that's your trademark Feanor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    Fine, that was a nasty post.... and based on the tone I'm going to assume it was part of a quarrel... Posts made during quarrels are not always the best reflection of what someone really thinks...

    I've seen (and to some extent been involved in) some of the political exchanges between you and Feanor... Feanor has a lot of very strong opinions on American Politics and you 'appear' to dislike hearing foreigners' opinions on your country... This is a perfect recipe for misunderstandings...

    I don't think Feanor hates Americans... What happens in America affects all of us foreigners and so we watch your elections and politics with held breath, hoping that we won't all get screwed if the American public votes for the wrong guy... America is like the musclebound jock in high school... if he chooses to use his brain and be a nice guy, then he can be a role model to the whole school, but if he decides to be a bully then everyone starts hiding...

    You need to understand that there is a difference between hating someone and just being afraid of what they might do...
    Unfortunately Ajani, I do not go to the polls and vote in a way that makes other countries more comfortable. If I vote for what I decide is good for my country, and it makes other countries uncomfortable, that's too bad I am afraid. I do not see citizens in other contries voting in a way that makes American more comfortable, the palestinians certainly didn't voting Hamas into power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich-n-Texas
    I don't see any good advise in this. I don't know what "bngger" means, but this post sounds like someone who has a deep seated disdain for us Americans...
    What is an 'n' rotated 180°?

    Most of the world -- including me -- looks to the United States for leadership in many in areas including economics, ethics, and geopolitics. We are disappointed and frustrated when the U.S. comes up even a little short.

    I am sadden when a sizable portion of US citizens votes on the basis of discredited and untimely right-wing ideologies with the result that the most powerful political offices in the world are turned over to incompotent and ethically-corrupt individuals. Not only America but the whole world is punished as a consequence -- I'm not only saddened but a bit angry reflecting on this. Be mindful that a very large portion of people outside the US hold the outgoing US administration to blame for causing or exacerbating various serious problems in the world today.

    Fortunately the new US Federal administration holds out hope for significant improvements in many areas. I am solidly with the sensible Americans of good will who will supporting their government's undertakings to right the problems.

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