Woochifer]And your ignorance knows no bounds, try buying a calendar sometime or at least read up on what has happened over the last 20 years. A lot has happened since the 1980s.

yep, PC's have taken over the market, a market that Apple surrendered due to greed and marketing ignorance



Typical fallacious circular argument, given that every market in the world operates in a regulated environment, and not in some theoretical libertarian vacuum. Even the internet itself is a government-subsidized venture originally created for military applications.

but its those "regulations" that allow monopolies to exist

If monopolies don't exist, then why do all countries have some form of anti-trust laws on the books, and why has Microsoft been legally defined as a "monopoly" by the courts in the U.S. and the E.U.?

this was grandstanding. If they were a monopoly then why werent they broken up?



Nope, the reason is that they have a monopoly in the OS market that they have used to kill competitors in other markets.

they dont have a "monopoly", just dominant market share, mainly because their stuff actually has use in the free world


The joke is your now debunked belief that Macs could not be expanded. When was the last time you actually used a Mac? I thought so.
Dont have time to play with toys

Oh, and I guess that if Macs are toys, then all the other Vista laptop PCs that PC World tested are toys too, given that the MacBook Pro outperformed all of them while running Vista?
Sp vista sucks and powerbook is great because it runs it so well? Are you arguing with yourself?

And by your logic, all laptops are toy computers anyway (even though they now constitute the majority of the market), given that none of them can add internal hard drive capacity either, right?
theres plenty you can do with a laptop, but we're not talking about laptops


This coming from someone who thinks that monopolies don't exist because we have a totally free market! Make up your mind! Do monopolies exist or don't they? Proprietary and patented technology alone do not constitute a monopoly, or is that what you are telling us does not exist?

proprietary and patented tech doesnt constitute a monopoly true, and that is microsofts main advantage, thanks for proving my point, and monopolies dont exist in a free market,
every monopoly that has ever existed exists because of govt force

Apple was not a monopolist because at no point did they ever have or exercise market power in the computer industry. At the time that the Mac came out, there was still plenty of competition in the PC market, and the Mac's market share actually remained lower than the arcane Apple ][.



And guess what, the market worked exactly as it should -- Apple attained only a 10% market share, while the less expensive and less capable PCs took the rest. Apple directed the Mac towards the higher end of the market, and they still do. At no point has Apple ever tried marketing the Mac towards the cheap bottomfeeding end -- I guess that's why you're so bitter towards them, given your preference for cheapness.

In other words they lost market and became a niche product because of their greed and inept marketing, this isn't just my opinion its well known
They wouldnt liscense their product or price it competively,
and to say I am "bitter" toward a company that makes botique toys for people for whom cstyle is more important than function is hilarious. Why should I care about a doomed company run by a bunch of ignorant yuppies?


I'm not preaching to someone who has lived it, just to someone who's ignorant of it.

no, you're telling your lies and propaganda to someone who was THERE when it happened, propaganda doesnt work so well on someone who actually wittenessed
what happened.
And Apple gave up the future is what happened, and that is their loss



So tell us what they "tried to do to computers" given that at no point did they ever attain a market position powerful enough to kill competition in the OS market?
Every product they make is sealed tight and impossible to work on.
THINK that microsoft products its source code? Where can you find apples?
Oh. thats different! YEAH RIGHT


Let's see, maybe my computer at work (which is Windows-based) will crash less often, run faster, won't force me to install crapware that I don't need (a la IE, Windows Messenger, Windows Media Player, etc.), be less susceptible to worms and other security risks, and provide the ability to seamlessly work between Linux, Windows, and OS X applications? [/QUOTE]
Then just get yourself an APPLE! So why doesnt your company use Apple? Why don't they let you bring your Apple to work?
I thought so.
Apple is just as prone to security risks as windows, the only reason hackers dont bother
is that Apples are so rarely used that its not worth the trouble, and if you cant figure out how to uninstall media player and messenger then you are a blithering idiot.
BTW I have used XP for several years with no problems of any serious sort whatsoever