Hollywood Reporter: Toshiba to Drop HD-DVD

[Rich-n-Texas]

Pix knows. And he'll be along later to tell everybody... "I told ya so".

[pixelthis]

Pix knows. And he'll be along later to tell everybody... "I told ya so".

I have always "known", like I said I have seen this dozens of times.
And its not a question of tosh pulling the plug, they have been planning this for awhile now.
Just a question of getting out with the maximum number of fingers and toes.
I wouold like to say that if the industry has learned anything from this expensive
debacle then it might be worth it, but they haven't, they never do.
Blu was the better system from the start and had wide industry support before this little "war" even got started.
Now if they wanted to flush several hundred mill down the toilet fine, its their business.
Just wish they could have slipped me a couple of mill, what diff would it have made?
As for the format wars in general I have one thing to say...
NEXT

[GMichael]

I have always "known", like I said I have seen this dozens of times.
And its not a question of tosh pulling the plug, they have been planning this for awhile now.
Just a question of getting out with the maximum number of fingers and toes.
I wouold like to say that if the industry has learned anything from this expensive
debacle then it might be worth it, but they haven't, they never do.
Blu was the better system from the start and had wide industry support before this little "war" even got started.
Now if they wanted to flush several hundred mill down the toilet fine, its their business.
Just wish they could have slipped me a couple of mill, what diff would it have made?
As for the format wars in general I have one thing to say...
NEXT

What are you doing posting during the day? Won't you get a sunburn?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

What are you doing posting during the day? Won't you get a sunburn?

You ever heard of the freaks come out at night. Posting is his day job. He is freakin at night!

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

This fool is the biggest bull$hit artist on this site.

I have always "known", like I said I have seen this dozens of times.
And its not a question of tosh pulling the plug, they have been planning this for awhile now.

I guess you knew more the Ken Graffeo and Sally Jodi? You are full of it. They have not been planning this a while. They had no idea that Warner was going to make the announcement they did. If they did, do you really think the DVD forum would have approved the next to final version of the TL-51 disc white paper? Why pay Universal an additional $75 million to support the product until the fall? At the last DVD forum meeting, both Graffeo and Jodi were giddy as school girls at the passing of TL-51, if they had been planning an exit, why all the joy? Did you really think they knew about Walmart? I do not think so, because I know for a fact the decision was a last minute decision, and the BDA didn't know about it until about 24 hours before the announcement. If they knew this for a long time, why did Ventura release a player at the end of last year? Seems to me they could have quit production immediately and would not have to fire sale their players like Toshiba is doing. That could not have been good for their bottom line. This is hogwash, bullocks, bull, they have not been planning this a while. This is just a plain old lie from somebody who is a nobody trying to be somebody.

Just a question of getting out with the maximum number of fingers and toes.
I wouold like to say that if the industry has learned anything from this expensive
debacle then it might be worth it, but they haven't, they never do.

The lesson was out there for Toshiba to learn. Sony and Betamax should have taught them something. However, I would not be so quick to blame toshiba for all of this. Microsoft played a huge role in getting Toshiba to market HD DVD. Microsoft was the one that encouraged Toshiba to release HD DVD when Toshiba was about to throw in the towel before HD DVD official release. Toshiba saw the handwriting on the wall when members of the BDA who were also members of the DVD forum where constantly obstaining from voting on HD DVD. However it was Microsoft that encourage them to stay in it, and promised them they would support them to the end. When Toshiba went to negotiate with Warner, Microsoft was no were to be found.

I think before you make these off the cuff statements, you need to do ALOT more homework. The music business is not the movie business. Player manufacturers do not make software. Studios do not make players(not even Sony Home Entertainment). You have a penchant for doing alot of mixing and mashing so your pea brain can process the complexity. It may be good for your convience, but it is not accurate or truthful.

[pixelthis]

This fool is the biggest bull$hit artist on this site.



I guess you knew more the Ken Graffeo and Sally Jodi? You are full of it. They have not been planning this a while. They had no idea that Warner was going to make the announcement they did. If they did, do you really think the DVD forum would have approved the next to final version of the TL-51 disc white paper? Why pay Universal an additional $75 million to support the product until the fall? At the last DVD forum meeting, both Graffeo and Jodi were giddy as school girls at the passing of TL-51, if they had been planning an exit, why all the joy? Did you really think they knew about Walmart? I do not think so, because I know for a fact the decision was a last minute decision, and the BDA didn't know about it until about 24 hours before the announcement. If they knew this for a long time, why did Ventura release a player at the end of last year? Seems to me they could have quit production immediately and would not have to fire sale their players like Toshiba is doing. That could not have been good for their bottom line. This is hogwash, bullocks, bull, they have not been planning this a while. This is just a plain old lie from somebody who is a nobody trying to be somebody.



The lesson was out there for Toshiba to learn. Sony and Betamax should have taught them something. However, I would not be so quick to blame toshiba for all of this. Microsoft played a huge role in getting Toshiba to market HD DVD. Microsoft was the one that encouraged Toshiba to release HD DVD when Toshiba was about to throw in the towel before HD DVD official release. Toshiba saw the handwriting on the wall when members of the BDA who were also members of the DVD forum where constantly obstaining from voting on HD DVD. However it was Microsoft that encourage them to stay in it, and promised them they would support them to the end. When Toshiba went to negotiate with Warner, Microsoft was no were to be found.

I think before you make these off the cuff statements, you need to do ALOT more homework. The music business is not the movie business. Player manufacturers do not make software. Studios do not make players(not even Sony Home Entertainment). You have a penchant for doing alot of mixing and mashing so your pea brain can process the complexity. It may be good for your convience, but it is not accurate or truthful.

Someone needs to get the baby some pampers, he's gettin cranky again.
I sure hope to god you are a fake and not the industry shill you claim to be,
because your dumbassery is matched only by your naivette.
Companies have several paths they set up. In this case its obivous they have been planning an exit strategy for some time.
But you betray that exit strategey and destroy confidence in the troops if you let on, so you have to put a bold face to the world.
Every loser in a war has been talking about victory the day before surrender.
True the HD camp has been making some effort, but nothing MAJOR.
And the fact that walmart pulled the rug out so swiftly means that they aren't really paying attention, they are just trying to get out of this debacle with some face left.
As for Microsofts role, tosh didnt go into this on the urging of someone else, they almost started a format war over DVD, doesn't ANYBODY remember even recent history?
Unlike you I give the tosh beancounters some credit, and only a ninny couldn't see this coming.
BTW I don't post during teh day because unlike most of the nimrods on this board, I do have a LIFE

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Someone needs to get the baby some pampers, he's gettin cranky again.
I sure hope to god you are a fake and not the industry shill you claim to be,
because your dumbassery is matched only by your naivette.
Companies have several paths they set up. In this case its obivous they have been planning an exit strategy for some time.
But you betray that exit strategey and destroy confidence in the troops if you let on, so you have to put a bold face to the world.
Every loser in a war has been talking about victory the day before surrender.
True the HD camp has been making some effort, but nothing MAJOR.
And the fact that walmart pulled the rug out so swiftly means that they aren't really paying attention, they are just trying to get out of this debacle with some face left.
As for Microsofts role, tosh didnt go into this on the urging of someone else, they almost started a format war over DVD, doesn't ANYBODY remember even recent history?
Unlike you I give the tosh beancounters some credit, and only a ninny couldn't see this coming.
BTW I don't post during teh day because unlike most of the nimrods on this board, I do have a LIFE

Pix, there is no need to respond to this. Everyone here knows that you are perhaps the dumbest old man on this board. We all know that you do not know your a$$ from your head, so there is no need to respond any further to your bull$hit.

[pixelthis]

Pix, there is no need to respond to this. Everyone here knows that you are perhaps the dumbest old man on this board. We all know that you do not know your a$$ from your head, so there is no need to respond any further to your bull$hit.

In other words I am right.
unlike Kex, I dont beleive they were certain until probably sept of last year, certainly
after christmas.
Sure they sold players and you need players out there, but if the other sides software
is selling better then thats a sure sign that the public is going their way.
Anyway they probably saw little downside of trying a format war, never stopping to think of the damage they would do to the future market for HD on disc caused by the confusion sown by a format war.
I do know one thing, if they havent had an exit strategy from the start they are as stupid
as a certain sir talky.
AND IF THEY HAVENT IMPLEMENTED IT BY NOW...
Then they don't deserve to be running a taco stand, much less a major corp

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

In other words I am right.
unlike Kex, I dont beleive they were certain until probably sept of last year, certainly
after christmas.
Sure they sold players and you need players out there, but if the other sides software
is selling better then thats a sure sign that the public is going their way.
Anyway they probably saw little downside of trying a format war, never stopping to think of the damage they would do to the future market for HD on disc caused by the confusion sown by a format war.
I do know one thing, if they havent had an exit strategy from the start they are as stupid
as a certain sir talky.
AND IF THEY HAVENT IMPLEMENTED IT BY NOW...
Then they don't deserve to be running a taco stand, much less a major corp

Sorry Pix, they didn't know last September, it wasn't till after the Warner announcement that they saw the writing on the wall. It wasn't until Walmart and Netflix announced bluray exclusive which pushed them to announce sooner than later that they were willing to concede defeat. So do not bring your toothless and brainless head here trying to look like you were right all along. You have been wrong with 95% of the things you have posted here, and this was no exception.