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[Woochifer]

I think that we all should just make this our signature.

Originally Posted by nightflier
Pix, you're confusing a whole lot of different generalizations and stereotypical attributes into a collective mess. In the end, it doesn't further your argument...

Pix's latest rant isn't even worth a complete sentence in response (for one thing, he barely writes in legible English to begin with) -- I think says all that needs to be said! Still, I can't wait to see how he responds to all-o-ya putting that dictionary description of a pix post into your sigs!

[pixelthis]

Pix, you're confusing a whole lot of different generalizations and stereotypical attributes into a collective mess. In the end, it doesn't further your argument. Suffice it to say that there is enough scientific evidence behind the green movement to support the claims made by their adherents. Let's remember that many who support the green movement are also scientists. Those who oppose it are either financially vested in doing so, or just plain uneducated.

NOT TRUE.
If you put the facts together there was a one degree, one degree rise in total earth temp in the last century, and this is extrapolated, since the only evidence
used is since the seventies.
Why isnt earlier evidence used? It doesnt fit, and actually shows a decline overall in
earth temp!
Around ten thousand BC the earth was actually seven degrees warmer than it is now,
and these so called "scientists" who say the earth is warming are the same ones that
were saying in the late sixties that it was actually cooling.
I have no "vested" interest in this except maybe I dont want the children of the first
world paying most of what they earn to the children of the third world, which is what
"global warming" is really all about.
This is why the Kyoto treaty calls for some of the biggest polluters (china, etc) to donate
the least to "curing" this non problem.
Not to mentionj that when you actually start giving facts the greenies resort to insults,
like being "uneducated".
If all you can answer with is insults then that is an exelent example that you are clueless.
Why dont you do some research instead of accepting the propaganda you are being
spoon fed without complaint?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread418538/pg1

[pixelthis]

The arrogance of humanity is actually being used against them, the thought that they
can actually affect the climate on a planetary scale.
If you could actually conceive of just how massive the planetary ecology actually
is you would laugh at this rediculous notion also.

[pixelthis]

Pix's latest rant isn't even worth a complete sentence in response (for one thing, he barely writes in legible English to begin with) -- I think says all that needs to be said! Still, I can't wait to see how he responds to all-o-ya putting that dictionary description of a pix post into your sigs!

I would expect you to resort to insults instead of facts, since your job of making up lies for the govt would render you unfamilar with them.

[Woochifer]

I would expect you to resort to insults instead of facts, since your job of making up lies for the govt would render you unfamilar with them.

[pixelthis]

Heres another link , this time to the US SENATE committee on enviroment, with a lot more information.

It haS SEVERAL quotes from distingushed scientists from all over the planet.
Heres my favorite...

“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

WOOCH you dont have to bother reading the link, after all its only from the US SENATE,
AND I would hate to strain that tiny mind of yours, so just post another smiley with the
guy rotating his finger, thats what you are really good at.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...0-274616db87e6

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Pix, you're confusing a whole lot of different generalizations and stereotypical attributes into a collective mess. In the end, it doesn't further your argument.

I have been saying this for a year about him. And this is not topic dependant, this is how he is with EVERY topic.

[nightflier]

Pix, I didn't mean to insult. I know you have your debates with the other guys, and I'm not trying to get into the middle of that, but you have to admit that the evidence is overwhelming.

For example, I don't accept the 1 degree argument, and I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the scientific community doesn't either. The figure I read more often is 3 degrees (150% more), and while that doesn't seem like a lot, it means a tremendous change in our environment affecting everything from sea-water levels, to polar ice caps, to climate changes that will change whole ecosystems for good. If you think this will not affect our own food chain, our health, and our lifestyles, then I'm don't think you're paying attention.

Then there is the issue with how fast this temperature change is occurring, nothing like what happened millions of years ago between ice ages. This rapid change is much more likely to have been caused by our pollution of the environment. Anyhow, this isn't my area of expertise, but I do read about it quite a bit. I have good reasons to believe the science behind the articles and to try and change my behavior a little, at least in ways that reduce my own carbon footprint. I debated long & hard about buying a plasma TV, but in the end, the higher energy use and heat issues were very minor, less in fact than many LCDs.

Then there's that little detail about the hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica....

[Woochifer]

WOOCH you dont have to bother reading the link, after all its only from the US SENATE,
AND I would hate to strain that tiny mind of yours, so just post another smiley with the
guy rotating his finger, thats what you are really good at.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...0-274616db87e6

Figures that you'd hang your hat on a MINORITY report authored by theocrat nutcase James Inhofe. He might be the only member of the Senate that's gone further loco than you ... NAH!

[nightflier]

Well Tex, you may just be getting your wish. Last I heard, Obama's team was throwing out numbers like $1000 per person and another $1000 per dependent. Now unless people stick it in the bank (or the floorboards in Texas) and hold onto it for a rainy day (flooding notwithstanding for Texans), most of this money is going to get rolled back into the economy.

If this comes to pass, I am also expecting a lot of upper-middle class people who are still doing OK and who won't consider this a lot of money, to invest the check. That along with rising fuel prices, rising b2b spending, and a few other factors, could really pick up this lagging economy. I'm reading investment projections that specify growth numbers of 100-150% in some sectors in the next 2 years.

Some positive thoughts:

- The one good thing about being the first economy to have suffered a national bail-out crisis, is that we stand a good chance of being the first ones out of the muck. If anyone has the resilience to do it, it's Americans.

- Investing in green technologies is now not only the cool thing to do, but also seen as a good investment strategy.

- If you hate everything green (yes there are still such Cromagnons around, esp. in Crawford Texas), then investing in oil right now is also a good bet. Of if you're neither green nor Texan, investing in new oil exploration techniques is a good way to remain on the fence and still make a buck.

- While house prices are expected to fall some more, they will likely stay low for another 2-4 years. For those looking to buy a house, there is some time to cash in their stocks and put together that nest egg.

- This economy and the green movement are finally reaching the hi-fi market it seems. From everything I've read about Las Vagas this month, it looks like less-expensive, small, energy-efficient, fair-labor, and higher-quality-and-more-durable gear is all the rage. Just look at the products that NAD, Cambridge, PS Audio, Harman, and Martin Logan are bringing to their line-ups.

- Growth in the computer industry is also expected in key areas where the US has always been strong: services, micro-processors, software, security, and networking. I'm not saying to start pouring money into Nasdaq-only investments, but it's worth keeping an eye on this.

- eBay and other auction / used goods sites are growing steadily as well. Not only good for audio-video folks, but also shows that people are willing to re-use much of what before was being thrown out as trash.

- Only 14 more days of Bush/Cheney and the fear that they will screw more up before they finally leave. Like the rallying call during the election: the world can't wait. So provided that the status quo remains for two more weeks, prepare yourselves for the biggest world-wide inaugural celebration we will see in our lifetimes.

Now would we be saying anything even remotely this positive if that guy from Arizona had won the election? ('Forgot his name; wait, it'll come to me... ...Nope completely forgot.)

[pixelthis]

Well Tex, you may just be getting your wish. Last I heard, Obama's team was throwing out numbers like $1000 per person and another $1000 per dependent. Now unless people stick it in the bank (or the floorboards in Texas) and hold onto it for a rainy day (flooding notwithstanding for Texans), most of this money is going to get rolled back into the economy.

If this comes to pass, I am also expecting a lot of upper-middle class people who are still doing OK and who won't consider this a lot of money, to invest the check. That along with rising fuel prices, rising b2b spending, and a few other factors, could really pick up this lagging economy. I'm reading investment projections that specify growth numbers of 100-150% in some sectors in the next 2 years.

Some positive thoughts:

- The one good thing about being the first economy to have suffered a national bail-out crisis, is that we stand a good chance of being the first ones out of the muck. If anyone has the resilience to do it, it's Americans.

- Investing in green technologies is now not only the cool thing to do, but also seen as a good investment strategy.

- If you hate everything green (yes there are still such Cromagnons around, esp. in Crawford Texas), then investing in oil right now is also a good bet. Of if you're neither green nor Texan, investing in new oil exploration techniques is a good way to remain on the fence and still make a buck.

- While house prices are expected to fall some more, they will likely stay low for another 2-4 years. For those looking to buy a house, there is some time to cash in their stocks and put together that nest egg.

- This economy and the green movement are finally reaching the hi-fi market it seems. From everything I've read about Las Vagas this month, it looks like less-expensive, small, energy-efficient, fair-labor, and higher-quality-and-more-durable gear is all the rage. Just look at the products that NAD, Cambridge, PS Audio, Harman, and Martin Logan are bringing to their line-ups.

- Growth in the computer industry is also expected in key areas where the US has always been strong: services, micro-processors, software, security, and networking. I'm not saying to start pouring money into Nasdaq-only investments, but it's worth keeping an eye on this.

- eBay and other auction / used goods sites are growing steadily as well. Not only good for audio-video folks, but also shows that people are willing to re-use much of what before was being thrown out as trash.

- Only 14 more days of Bush/Cheney and the fear that they will screw more up before they finally leave. Like the rallying call during the election: the world can't wait. So provided that the status quo remains for two more weeks, prepare yourselves for the biggest world-wide inaugural celebration we will see in our lifetimes.

Now would we be saying anything even remotely this positive if that guy from Arizona had won the election? ('Forgot his name; wait, it'll come to me... ...Nope completely forgot.)

OH, you liberals are so cute.
You blame 70 odd years of failed policy (basically the notion of a free lunch) and in spite of the disaster you've turned this country into you still beleive in something for nothing.
A TALKING HEAD on some talk show declared liberalism a disease, a refusal to grow up,
a childlike hankering for the "grownups" to magically fix everything.
I have made a few predictions ( all correct) on this site, and I WILL MAKE ANOTHER.
THIS "inauguration" of the first foreign citizen (kenyan) which is a violation of teh constitution, a person who will NOT salute the flag, who has cursed this country,
who has sat on panels with known terrorists, is the beginning of the end for this country.
They are already talking about limiting free speech(they have talked about it for some time,
they are actually going to do something about it)and required "national service" (slavery).
The great freedom experiment is over.
Not that anybody will notice, they will be too busy starving to death

[pixelthis]

[QUOTE=nightflier]Well Tex, you may just be getting your wish. Last I heard, Obama's team was throwing out numbers like $1000 per person and another $1000 per dependent. Now unless people stick it in the bank (or the floorboards in Texas) and hold onto it for a rainy day (flooding notwithstanding for Texans), most of this money is going to get rolled back into the economy.

If this comes to pass, I am also expecting a lot of upper-middle class people who are still doing OK and who won't consider this a lot of money, to invest the check. That along with rising fuel prices, rising b2b spending, and a few other factors, could really pick up this lagging economy. I'm reading investment projections that specify growth numbers of 100-150% in some sectors in the next 2 years.

Some positive thoughts:

- The one good thing about being the first economy to have suffered a national bail-out crisis, is that we stand a good chance of being the first ones out of the muck. If anyone has the resilience to do it, it's Americans.

- Investing in green technologies is now not only the cool thing to do, but also seen as a good investment strategy.

- If you hate everything green (yes there are still such Cromagnons around, esp. in Crawford Texas), then investing in oil right now is also a good bet. Of if you're neither green nor Texan, investing in new oil exploration techniques is a good way to remain on the fence and still make a buck.

- While house prices are expected to fall some more, they will likely stay low for another 2-4 years. For those looking to buy a house, there is some time to cash in their stocks and put together that nest egg.

- This economy and the green movement are finally reaching the hi-fi market it seems. From everything I've read about Las Vagas this month, it looks like less-expensive, small, energy-efficient, fair-labor, and higher-quality-and-more-durable gear is all the rage. Just look at the products that NAD, Cambridge, PS Audio, Harman, and Martin Logan are bringing to their line-ups.

- Growth in the computer industry is also expected in key areas where the US has always been strong: services, micro-processors, software, security, and networking. I'm not saying to start pouring money into Nasdaq-only investments, but it's worth keeping an eye on this.

- eBay and other auction / used goods sites are growing steadily as well. Not only good for audio-video folks, but also shows that people are willing to re-use much of what before was being thrown out as trash.

- Only 14 more days of Bush/Cheney and the fear that they will screw more up before they finally leave. Like the rallying call during the election: the world can't wait. So provided that the status quo remains for two more weeks, prepare yourselves for the biggest world-wide inaugural celebration we will see in our lifetimes.

Now would we be saying anything even remotely this positive if that guy from Arizona had won the election? ('Forgot his name; wait, it'll come to me... ...Nope completely forgot.)

Dont forget the koolaid.
Thats the end for most liberal beleifs

[Rich-n-Texas]

So what's better right now, putting your money under the floorboards, or putting it into a failing bank? .000000001% interest on savings ain't worth the trip IMO.

Latest news has Obama asking for $755 billion to sure up the economy. Where's that money going to come from?

[GMichael]

So what's better right now, putting your money under the floorboards, or putting it into a failing bank? .000000001% interest on savings ain't worth the trip IMO.

Latest news has Obama asking for $755 billion to sure up the economy. Where's that money going to come from?

Printing is running 24/7.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Yeah, no doubt. It's a good time to be a printing press repair man ya know?

(You're really dragging out your last ten posts GM)

[Mr Peabody]

Pix, you say predictions, some say, stating the obvious or restating the obvious. You must be watching too much Sci-Fi or huffing again. Please, if anyone figured out a way to have some one run for president who wasn't born an American we'd have Arnold on the Republican ticket.

Our economy and energy would be fine now if they would have let Bush alone to fulfill his first economic plan, which was to make Iraq the 51st state.

I keep my money in the ammo box, right beside the ammo.

[pixelthis]

Pix, you say predictions, some say, stating the obvious or restating the obvious. You must be watching too much Sci-Fi or huffing again. Please, if anyone figured out a way to have some one run for president who wasn't born an American we'd have Arnold on the Republican ticket.

Our economy and energy would be fine now if they would have let Bush alone to fulfill his first economic plan, which was to make Iraq the 51st state.

I keep my money in the ammo box, right beside the ammo.

a good place for it.
THE media is too busy genuflecting to the "great" obama to do any real journalism.
Hes their boy, just like Clinton.
Basically, if you're a liberal puke like most of the media, you can get away with murder.
Literally.
Like when ron brown was going states evidence on Clinton and wound up in a plane crash with a bullet in his head.
Same old same old.
AND we wind up with the desolation of obama nation

[nightflier]

I have made a few predictions ( all correct) on this site

OK, that was good for a laugh. Now let's get back to reality shall we?

There is so much wrong with your statements, that trying to address each one would take us well beyond the inauguration. But I'm sure you'll pipe down when you get your $1000 check. What will you buy, another LCD?

Pix, I like you for the contrarian comments and the funny pics, but on politics you'll get no sympathy from me. I, and probably most people here are far from being liberals, so the insult just washes off and again, does nothing to further your argument. But it just seems like you can't stop painting yourself in a corner. Once is funny, twice is silly, eventually the joke becomes boring. So how many times will you have to sit in the corner waiting for the paint to dry before realizing that maybe there's a better way? You know from the corner, you might not be at the right angle to see that LCD very well....

[Mr Peabody]

Who ever thinks the media is liberal is not completely plugged in. Almost all syndicated talk radio shows are conservative if not ultra so. Pix, I think you listen to Rush too much. Fox is practically the Republican cheerleader team.

[pixelthis]

OK, that was good for a laugh. Now let's get back to reality shall we?

There is so much wrong with your statements, that trying to address each one would take us well beyond the inauguration. But I'm sure you'll pipe down when you get your $1000 check. What will you buy, another LCD?

Pix, I like you for the contrarian comments and the funny pics, but on politics you'll get no sympathy from me. I, and probably most people here are far from being liberals, so the insult just washes off and again, does nothing to further your argument. But it just seems like you can't stop painting yourself in a corner. Once is funny, twice is silly, eventually the joke becomes boring. So how many times will you have to sit in the corner waiting for the paint to dry before realizing that maybe there's a better way? You know from the corner, you might not be at the right angle to see that LCD very well....

IN OTHER WORDS you are a liberal who thinks that the obamanation is going to pull
us outta the mess that socialism got us into with even more socialism.
As for painting myself into a corner , thats what you and other idiots who voted
for this far left socialist did when you put him in office.
And he used to hobnob with some of the most radical leftists and communists in the country, and he refuses to salute the flag.
One terrorist in paticular that he used to pal around with was the leader of the weather
underground, a group that targeted police officers(and killed a few)
As an ex officer I FIND this paticulary galling.
As for what I "do" with my 500$ "gift" (which was stolen from me in the first place) , well, considering how hes' running the printing presses even before hes in office,
MAYBE I WILL BUY A FEW GROCERIES.

[Mr Peabody]

I see on the news that gun sales have been booming. Assault rifles have quadrupled. I guess people have their priorities straight.

[kexodusc]

Wow, Pix is really throwing out "socialism" and "communism" like it's going out of style.
Funny, some of the more social-democratic countries are the ones in the best position to navigate through the global economic crisis.
Can't have it both ways - it was capitalism, greedy banks with no foresight, and ignorant consumers with little restraint that got us here...not social programs. Unless you're talking about the most expensive socialist program of them all - military spending.
Much easier to blame "Liberals" than to look in the mirror though.

[Feanor]

OH, you liberals are so cute.
You blame 70 odd years of failed policy (basically the notion of a free lunch) and in spite of the disaster you've turned this country into you still beleive in something for nothing.
A TALKING HEAD on some talk show declared liberalism a disease, a refusal to grow up,
a childlike hankering for the "grownups" to magically fix everything.
I have made a few predictions ( all correct) on this site, and I WILL MAKE ANOTHER.
THIS "inauguration" of the first foreign citizen (kenyan) which is a violation of teh constitution, a person who will NOT salute the flag, who has cursed this country,
who has sat on panels with known terrorists, is the beginning of the end for this country.
They are already talking about limiting free speech(they have talked about it for some time,
they are actually going to do something about it)and required "national service" (slavery).
The great freedom experiment is over.
Not that anybody will notice, they will be too busy starving to death

EVERYTHING Pix says above is factually incorrect if not slandersous. Wow, 100% on this test.

[GMichael]

IN OTHER WORDS you are a liberal who thinks that the obamanation is going to pull
us outta the mess that socialism got us into with even more socialism.
As for painting myself into a corner , thats what you and other idiots who voted
for this far left socialist did when you put him in office.
And he used to hobnob with some of the most radical leftists and communists in the country, and he refuses to salute the flag.
One terrorist in paticular that he used to pal around with was the leader of the weather
underground, a group that targeted police officers(and killed a few)
As an ex officer I FIND this paticulary galling.
As for what I "do" with my 500$ "gift" (which was stolen from me in the first place) , well, considering how hes' running the printing presses even before hes in office,
MAYBE I WILL BUY A FEW GROCERIES.

It's posts like this that make me wish that I was a left wing Liberal. I feel embarrassed to call myself a conservative after this.

[Feanor]

Wow, Pix is really throwing out "socialism" and "communism" like it's going out of style.
Funny, some of the more social-democratic countries are the ones in the best position to navigate through the global economic crisis.
Can't have it both ways - it was capitalism, greedy banks with no foresight, and ignorant consumers with little restraint that got us here...not social programs. Unless you're talking about the most expensive socialist program of them all - military spending.
Much easier to blame "Liberals" than to look in the mirror though.

Or maybe "appaulling". Like Pix, Congressman Ron Paul on CNN recently said the same thing: the current situation was caused by "liberal" policies. Huh? Say what?

These people really need to get past the stale right-wing ideology and look at the facts.