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[pixelthis]

Pix, when we hadn't heard from you in a couple days I thought you might have gotten your feelings hurt and left, I should have known you'd want one last word before exiting. You need to be more open minded. You may be 50 but you can't tell anyone a turntable, tube amp or anything else is not as good as something unless you have some experience. Cerwin Vega at one time may have been a decent speaker but now they are a budget line. In this hobby there is no black & white, right or wrong, when it comes to what one prefers. If we all liked the same thing there would only need be one system. I used to run 250x2 of Krell power but not have 100 watt tube monoblocks, these each have their own strengths and things I wish were better but I prefer the tube amps. You having no idea of either can't say tubes are an inferior technology. This is where you stick your foot in your mouth and piss people off. You need to stick with what you know. Everyone has an opinion and like arm pits, some stink, but it helps if you base your opinion on some experience or knowledge. Your center costed $300.00, mine costed around $1,800.00. This doesn't make me right and you wrong, but it gives me a perspective on what the difference is between one costing $300.00 compared to one costing $1,800.00. Some may not hear that much difference to warrent letting go that much money and that's their choice but don't damn some one who does think it's worth it. And certainly don't comment one way or the other unless you've had the opportunity to hear a $1,800.00 speaker for yourself. The same with tubes, turntables or any other product. I believe at one time you did mention you heard some high end tube gear but if you maintain your receiver sounds better well then something is wrong, either with your hearing or the tube gear set up. Many here have budget gear so you can't say everyone is elitest. It's alright to have opposing opinions. If you think LCD is going to take over fine. I have a DLP and your opinion don't bother me. In fact, if I had to buy in today's market, I most likely would not buy DLP.

You can read a number of posts here, not all of us agree. Read, "what's up with HD radio", for example. Woochifer, myself and Nightflier were exchanging opposing opinions yet no one got mad or started name calling. It was a good debate. In many of the discussions opposing ideas bring up something maybe I haven't thought of or didn't know. If you were a man you'd stick with it and try to improve your style some. You can't always be right. In most opposing discussions, you just have to agree to disagree. As the above example, Wooch didn't change my opinion and I'm sure I didn't change his. Who knows though, maybe we both came out with a better understanding of each side or maybe learned something. And the fact that you had a falling out isn't the end of the world either. There have been some here in the past that got under my skin and made me go places I wish I hadn't. We are all only human.

The reference to cerwin vegas was an insult, they are basically car stereo speakers.
As for me not knowing what I am talking about, I've been doing this for a very long time,
do you think that my trip to this little forum is my first foray into HT or audio?
I havent started with any name calling but tend to be a bit outspoken, if speakers sound like crap, them I beleive in calling a spade a spade. If you consider that an insult then you need to get a life. Think my speakers are crap? I would be very interested in hearing your opinion.
But not on this forum.
Mr peabody you are one of the few with any grace and charm, with the intelligence to tell a joke from an "insult" or "lie", and you are truly gonna be missed.
But those like "rich in Texas? (not for long).
You say I refuse to admit when I am wrong, well how do you know?
You tried to hook NATILUS speakers to a HTIB for gods sake.
You are what we tech types call "lightswitch people", you flip a lightswitch and think nothing about the massive amount of effort it takes to make that little miracle work.
And you get all pissed off when we "know it alls' start to point out unpleasant facts
that poke through your little delusional bubble.
The truth is you need to sell those speakers to someone who appreciates them, and get you some nice ones from that mail order company that you got the rest of your
gear from.
And GM, well, you're named after a mortage company that just happens to sell cars on the side, and wont be doing that soon, and your moniker relates to automobiles
on a HT site. What more can I say?

One more little thing, I have a variety of albums (diamond dogs, gill scott heron, honkey
chateu) that I bought NEW in the 70's, and have had more turntables than you can beleive,
I think I know a little about their sonic qualities, and while I still enjoy listening to my records, they have about 50% of the dynamic range, wow and flutter, and pops and scratches
no matter how meticulously you clean them, they just dont sound as good as CD or SACD,
and if so called "audiophiles" want to claim so then thats their credibility, but I am always being lumped into that group, and it gets old.
Its really funny that you claim I dont "know much" about this stuff when I built a
three stage FET amp during my third year of electronics class, IN 1975.
Way before most on this site were more than a wet spot on their mothers side of the bed.
You may not like what I have to say but if you live long enough you will find that most,
not all but most is true. A bit unpleasant but true.
Especially in the case of old rich, there will always be a market for DLP front projectors
but the "microprojection" form factor is doomed, just no market for it.
Rant and rave all you want rich, but your company will take a hit on these
As for having no idea about tube amps, when I was working on TVsets most still had
tubes.
Most "high end " tube amps are based on the single end triode, that was basically
obsolete in 1934, the emitters are powered by a heater circuit that is basically like having
a space heater in your gear. That "tube" sound you and other love is harmonic distortion
(at least 5% in most tube gear) If you like that sort of thing fine, but please dont say
I am "pissing people off because I dont know what I am talking about.
Seems like I am pissing people off because I DO know what I am talking about.
In time maybe a few will come to understand what I was trying to do on this site, after they think about it for awhile, but I think it best that all of you sit around and chat about
such things a "video vs audio" (or apples vs oranges?) for now

[GMichael]

The reference to cerwin vegas was an insult, they are basically car stereo speakers.
As for me not knowing what I am talking about, I've been doing this for a very long time,
do you think that my trip to this little forum is my first foray into HT or audio?
I havent started with any name calling but tend to be a bit outspoken, if speakers sound like crap, them I beleive in calling a spade a spade. If you consider that an insult then you need to get a life. Think my speakers are crap? I would be very interested in hearing your opinion.
But not on this forum.
Mr peabody you are one of the few with any grace and charm, with the intelligence to tell a joke from an "insult" or "lie", and you are truly gonna be missed.
But those like "rich in Texas? (not for long).
You say I refuse to admit when I am wrong, well how do you know?
You tried to hook NATILUS speakers to a HTIB for gods sake.
You are what we tech types call "lightswitch people", you flip a lightswitch and think nothing about the massive amount of effort it takes to make that little miracle work.
And you get all pissed off when we "know it alls' start to point out unpleasant facts
that poke through your little delusional bubble.
The truth is you need to sell those speakers to someone who appreciates them, and get you some nice ones from that mail order company that you got the rest of your
gear from.
And GM, well, you're named after a mortage company that just happens to sell cars on the side, and wont be doing that soon, and your moniker relates to automobiles
on a HT site. What more can I say?

One more little thing, I have a variety of albums (diamond dogs, gill scott heron, honkey
chateu) that I bought NEW in the 70's, and have had more turntables than you can beleive,
I think I know a little about their sonic qualities, and while I still enjoy listening to my records, they have about 50% of the dynamic range, wow and flutter, and pops and scratches
no matter how meticulously you clean them, they just dont sound as good as CD or SACD,
and if so called "audiophiles" want to claim so then thats their credibility, but I am always being lumped into that group, and it gets old.
Its really funny that you claim I dont "know much" about this stuff when I built a
three stage FET amp during my third year of electronics class, IN 1975.
Way before most on this site were more than a wet spot on their mothers side of the bed.
You may not like what I have to say but if you live long enough you will find that most,
not all but most is true. A bit unpleasant but true.
Especially in the case of old rich, there will always be a market for DLP front projectors
but the "microprojection" form factor is doomed, just no market for it.
Rant and rave all you want rich, but your company will take a hit on these
As for having no idea about tube amps, when I was working on TVsets most still had
tubes.
Most "high end " tube amps are based on the single end triode, that was basically
obsolete in 1934, the emitters are powered by a heater circuit that is basically like having
a space heater in your gear. That "tube" sound you and other love is harmonic distortion
(at least 5% in most tube gear) If you like that sort of thing fine, but please dont say
I am "pissing people off because I dont know what I am talking about.
Seems like I am pissing people off because I DO know what I am talking about.
In time maybe a few will come to understand what I was trying to do on this site, after they think about it for awhile, but I think it best that all of you sit around and chat about
such things a "video vs audio" (or apples vs oranges?) for now

What I think is that you are a regular here who is masquerading as a pixel. Some of what you say is based on truth but then you go off on tangents that are either nuts or a joke. My guess is that they are meant as jokes. No one is clueless enough to think that "GMichael" has anything to do with General Motors. So I conclude that it was a joke. Do I win a stuffed bunny for getting that right? By the way, my moniker was changed to a speaker about a week ago. Still not paying attention I see. And stop picking on Mater. He's cool.

I know lots of people who have been doing things for years and still don't know what they're doing. Again, some of what you say it truth, but then you slip into making statements that are crazy. Maybe you mean them to be jokes, but you can't blame people for thinking that you are clueless when you say such craziness at times. It's like you are on a kick to be as absurd as possible.

Also, outspoken and rude are not the same thing. If you are walking down the street and see a woman in a funky hat, to run up to her and tell her that she looks ridiculous is rude. If she comes up to you and asks how she looks and you tell her that you don't like her hat, that's outspoken. Telling people that they need to trade their $10,000 speakers in for a HTiB because it would sound better is rude, not outspoken. If you like running up to people and saying rude things, that's your business. But you should know that it is rude and not just outspoken.
But I think I'm wasting my typing. I think you already know all of this. I think that you are here to stir things up because you are board. I think you are saying things that you know are crazy in hopes of getting people to respond. That's cool. We could use a little color around the place. But who are you really? Are we meant to guess?
And if you are truly serious about everything you are saying, then, well, sorry. I think your hat is very nice.

[GMichael]

You know we audiophile-types are hard to get along with....geesh we are a difficult breed. Maybe our social skills and etiquette are lacking because of too much listening to music???

Audiophile-types? Not me. I'm just an enthusiast who likes nice stuff. I don't even own a db meter. uh, yet.
Oh know! I'm going down the path! Somebody save me before I'm broke!

[Rich-n-Texas]

Nope. Still can't give you any chicklets. That thing must be broke.

[Rich-n-Texas]

I'm just an enthusiast who likes nice stuff.

I like nice stuff too... I just wish she'd cooperate with me!

[GMichael]

I like nice stuff too... I just wish she'd cooperate with me!

Have you tried giving her nice stuff? Oh wait! Please don't answer that.

[Rich-n-Texas]

I found this post by Kex while reading an old debate about moderation here:

When a subjectivist takes every opportunity he can to promote his favorite gear, it's just sharing opinion, an objectivist promotes his belief and you condemn him.
While I agree, the Mtrycrafts of the world seem to exist for the sole purpose of replying to threads and starting debate on the same old topic, there are those who can exist in both camps at the same time. I still believe we're better off dealing with the people issues, and allowing all points of view to be made, considered, and discussed.
If a new mtrycraft emerges, it'll be obvious really quick, and should be easy to deal with. Besides, did anyone really pay much attention to him anyway?

Lot of his posts are prototypical flame bait, and it would not surprise me if he's a reincarnation of any number of past muckrakers who've passed through these parts.

Things that make you go Hmmm...

[GMichael]

I found this post by Kex while reading an old debate about moderation here:


Things that make you go Hmmm...

Mtrycrafts frequents another site that I visit. He doesn't hold back when it comes to disagreeing with me (or anyone else for that matter).
And Pix hasn't really gone after me, even though I've given him the opportunity on several occasions. My theory is that it's someone I get along with or he'd fight with me more.

All his posts come in the middle of the night. So he's either from another country or works the night shift.

[Mr Peabody]

You know Pix I've had a turntable since the late 70's and if I had never heard a good turntable, I'd be agreeing with you. Luckily, my town has a high end shop and I borrowed a Rega from them. That was an amazing thing, my vinyl never sounded so good. It's a fact that the dynamic range won't equal a CD player but with a good piece of vinyl and the right cartridge the sound can be nearly as quiet. I don't really hold a hard line one way or the other as far as which is better but I wouldn't get rid of either one. The reason I borrowed the turntable is it was around the same time I started upgrading my system and I was seriously considering getting out of vinyl. When I heard what a good turntable can really do and weighed the fact that many of my albums hadn't been put on CD or were expensive imports, I just upgraded my turntable and phono stage right along with everything else. Of course, everything was done in stages.

RGA would debate the virtues of SET's with you. My gear and most higher power tube amps are an ultralinear design. There's been improvements in tube gear over the years, you should reserve judgement. I'm not an EE but the distortion people try to lay on tube gear is a different type than harmonic. I believe it is 3rd order distortion or some such. But harmonic distortion is very evident to my ears and I wouldn't sink thousands of dollars into an amp that would let me hear distortion. My CJ is not the power house my Krell is, so the CJ does have it's limit. I just have to know my gear and not go there.

I don't hold back my opinions on gear either. Anyone who pays attention to me, aside from needing therapy, will notice I'm not partial to Bose, Klipsch, Yamaha and others too numerous to mention. But, if some one says they like that gear, I respect that. And, there has been times in certain circumstances I actually recommended those brands because they met a person's need. It may not always show but I don't want anyone to feel bad or inferior because they use a brand I don't like. If they've done their research/listening and that's what they prefer, or the best in what they have for a budget, then they should be confident in themselves. Because at the end of the day it's them that listen to it, not me. If I do voice my opinion on gear though, one way or the other, it will be from my personal experience or I will say different in my post.

Why are all of your posts in the wee morning hours?

[pixelthis]

You know Pix I've had a turntable since the late 70's and if I had never heard a good turntable, I'd be agreeing with you. Luckily, my town has a high end shop and I borrowed a Rega from them. That was an amazing thing, my vinyl never sounded so good. It's a fact that the dynamic range won't equal a CD player but with a good piece of vinyl and the right cartridge the sound can be nearly as quiet. I don't really hold a hard line one way or the other as far as which is better but I wouldn't get rid of either one. The reason I borrowed the turntable is it was around the same time I started upgrading my system and I was seriously considering getting out of vinyl. When I heard what a good turntable can really do and weighed the fact that many of my albums hadn't been put on CD or were expensive imports, I just upgraded my turntable and phono stage right along with everything else. Of course, everything was done in stages.

RGA would debate the virtues of SET's with you. My gear and most higher power tube amps are an ultralinear design. There's been improvements in tube gear over the years, you should reserve judgement. I'm not an EE but the distortion people try to lay on tube gear is a different type than harmonic. I believe it is 3rd order distortion or some such. But harmonic distortion is very evident to my ears and I wouldn't sink thousands of dollars into an amp that would let me hear distortion. My CJ is not the power house my Krell is, so the CJ does have it's limit. I just have to know my gear and not go there.

I don't hold back my opinions on gear either. Anyone who pays attention to me, aside from needing therapy, will notice I'm not partial to Bose, Klipsch, Yamaha and others too numerous to mention. But, if some one says they like that gear, I respect that. And, there has been times in certain circumstances I actually recommended those brands because they met a person's need. It may not always show but I don't want anyone to feel bad or inferior because they use a brand I don't like. If they've done their research/listening and that's what they prefer, or the best in what they have for a budget, then they should be confident in themselves. Because at the end of the day it's them that listen to it, not me. If I do voice my opinion on gear though, one way or the other, it will be from my personal experience or I will say different in my post.

Why are all of your posts in the wee morning hours?

I come home, eat, watch the tube, er PANEL, and flip it over to RGB and surf awhile,
check out a few haunts, come here and throw some opinions out...
This used to be a resource of reviews for gear I was thinking of buying, and I love the gallery section, got a lot of good ideas.
And I have posted quite a few reviews, under the moniker moviedog.
Glad you're not too pissed gm, you seem like an okay guy....seem.
Can't seem to get away from this place. Anywho, I have listened to scads of turntables,
and scads of tube amps, and turntables have their place, I have two at the moment,
both vintage technics, they actually used to make some decent gear.
But if a turntable and tuber type you have to understand something, both got their start
in the eighties, a few brillant types thought, well, if turntables, then maybe tubes.
the fad got so prevalent that some were saying "what next, the gramophone"?
And then some guy put out a high end gramophone type machine
And this is a reaction to digital audio, just like painters stopped focusing on realism
when photography started, so audiophiles started in with the retro stuff to distingwise
themselves.
In the seventies NOBODY talked about tubes, there were some, but the FET transtistor was king, seems to me like a regression of sorts, this return to tubes.
It will pass, in any event.
I guess what really irritates me is this idea that I am a know nothing, true my skills
at electronics have become a bit dated, but I have been playing with this stuff for quite
awhile, surely you dont think I have learned NOTHING in four decades?

Sure there is a place for turntables, but they have limitations is all I am saying, and they are the past. Dont like the redbook? Then how about lossless formats like Ape, flac,
MLP, true a lot of those came from CD, but they still sound great.
Tech has surpassed the CD and eventually the turntable will die.
Pioneer is coming out with a reel to reel, super high fidelity, now that is exciting
And tubes? their measured distortion is always in the audible range, they produce excess
heat, dont last long, require heater circuits that have all sorts of problems,
the people at bell labs that won the nobel for replacing them got that award for a reason,
like tube sound? It can (and is) being reproduced electronically, every cheap guitar amp
has a switch for it, and its on a lot of high end gear as well.
And paradigm (or whatever) speakers STILL sound like crap.
Gm you need to understand that insulting a person IS RUDE, but saying bad things about equipment isnt, because equipment doesnt have feelings.
Nobody should be connected so emotionally to equipment that they are insulted
when ITS insulted.

[PeruvianSkies]

Sounds like everyone can hug now.

[GMichael]

I come home, eat, watch the tube, er PANEL, and flip it over to RGB and surf awhile,
check out a few haunts, come here and throw some opinions out...
This used to be a resource of reviews for gear I was thinking of buying, and I love the gallery section, got a lot of good ideas.
And I have posted quite a few reviews, under the moniker moviedog.
Glad you're not too pissed gm, you seem like an okay guy....seem.
Can't seem to get away from this place. Anywho, I have listened to scads of turntables,
and scads of tube amps, and turntables have their place, I have two at the moment,
both vintage technics, they actually used to make some decent gear.
But if a turntable and tuber type you have to understand something, both got their start
in the eighties, a few brillant types thought, well, if turntables, then maybe tubes.
the fad got so prevalent that some were saying "what next, the gramophone"?
And then some guy put out a high end gramophone type machine
And this is a reaction to digital audio, just like painters stopped focusing on realism
when photography started, so audiophiles started in with the retro stuff to distingwise
themselves.
In the seventies NOBODY talked about tubes, there were some, but the FET transtistor was king, seems to me like a regression of sorts, this return to tubes.
It will pass, in any event.
I guess what really irritates me is this idea that I am a know nothing, true my skills
at electronics have become a bit dated, but I have been playing with this stuff for quite
awhile, surely you dont think I have learned NOTHING in four decades?

Sure there is a place for turntables, but they have limitations is all I am saying, and they are the past. Dont like the redbook? Then how about lossless formats like Ape, flac,
MLP, true a lot of those came from CD, but they still sound great.
Tech has surpassed the CD and eventually the turntable will die.
Pioneer is coming out with a reel to reel, super high fidelity, now that is exciting
And tubes? their measured distortion is always in the audible range, they produce excess
heat, dont last long, require heater circuits that have all sorts of problems,
the people at bell labs that won the nobel for replacing them got that award for a reason,
like tube sound? It can (and is) being reproduced electronically, every cheap guitar amp
has a switch for it, and its on a lot of high end gear as well.
And paradigm (or whatever) speakers STILL sound like crap.
Gm you need to understand that insulting a person IS RUDE, but saying bad things about equipment isnt, because equipment doesnt have feelings.
Nobody should be connected so emotionally to equipment that they are insulted
when ITS insulted.

Glad you're coming around. A little.

[Mr Peabody]

I didn't say you didn't know anything but you are out of touch and off base where tubes are concerned. Good luck to Pioneer, I know Reel to Reel sounded good and there Super whatever may sound fabulous but talk about bringing back a dead format. Even though it sounds good, who would mess with it now?

[PeruvianSkies]

I didn't say you didn't know anything but you are out of touch and off base where tubes are concerned. Good luck to Pioneer, I know Reel to Reel sounded good and there Super whatever may sound fabulous but talk about bringing back a dead format. Even though it sounds good, who would mess with it now?

Reel to reel is dead? Dang, I was hoping to get one installed in my car. Shucks.

[GMichael]

Reel to reel is dead? Dang, I was hoping to get one installed in my car. Shucks.

Nice IPOD you have in your car. A little big isn't it?

[Rich-n-Texas]

My AKAI M9's for sale. Anybody want to buy it?

[pixelthis]

I didn't say you didn't know anything but you are out of touch and off base where tubes are concerned. Good luck to Pioneer, I know Reel to Reel sounded good and there Super whatever may sound fabulous but talk about bringing back a dead format. Even though it sounds good, who would mess with it now?

The Idea is a totally analog format with decent dynamic range, no shortcomings of turntables, etc.
This wouldn't be you're daddys reel to reel, with new types of tape formats and dubs from studio masters it would trump the turntable on analog sound, with none of the "jitter"
and the like that bothers "audiophiles so much.
They didnt buy into SACD and DVDAUDIO because they are both digital, after all.
But there is NOTHING that has ever beat a master tape, NOTHING.
Imagine one in your house

[PeruvianSkies]

...I remember when they used this same display for Beta.

[pixelthis]

...I remember when they used this same display for Beta.

FUNNY you should say that , because for all of its tech superiority Beta lost out because it could only record one and a half hours, capacity in other words.
AND the extra capacity is what makes Blu-ray the "winner" of this format war, according to those who know.
Seems like at least Sony has learned from its mistakes