Digital TV

[pixelthis]

To translate, you are arguing that a INTERLACED format is better because its "progressive" but its not progressive at all!
And my 768 p set has about twice as much resolution as your "edtv", which probably at most puts out around 380 lines of resolution.
BUT whatever makes you happy...

[PAT.P]

And my 768 p set has about twice as much resolution as your "edtv", which probably at most puts out around 380 lines of resolution.
BUT whatever makes you happy...

First of all ,the resolution is the least important at the distance Im sitting!What make a greater importance in viewing in order 1) contrast
2)color saturation
3)color accuacy
4)resolution
My EDTV as all of this in order while yours is all backward in order .I dont want to compensate colors for resolution Like I said before this is not my main tv .Im sitting on the side for the newer Lazer,SED,Carbon Nanotube

[DEVO]

First of all ,the resolution is the least important at the distance Im sitting!What make a greater importance in viewing in order 1) contrast
2)color saturation
3)color accuacy
4)resolution
My EDTV as all of this in order while yours is all backward in order .I dont want to compensate colors for resolution Like I said before this is not my main tv .Im sitting on the side for the newer Lazer,SED,Carbon Nanotube

This Post has gotten very out of hand...but rez. is sooooooo overrated! As is other specs, contrast (where is that contrast policeman anyway?) Every manufacture lies like a rug! LCD's have got to fix alot of things before they can really compete w/ plasma's.

1. motion artifacts
2. black level
3. viewing angles

I have an older Panasonic 480p (paid 2,500 new) at my bike shop that is used all day long, and it is showing a Yamaha DVDC750. It looks great, mostly viewing bicycle videos, but everyone who walks into the store loves it! I will post pics later (store is under renovation due to roof damage). But, point is source matches tv. It looks very smooth, with very good black level. And should last a very long time! LCD's can't do that...yet...no matter what rez!

[recoveryone]

To translate, you are arguing that a INTERLACED format is better because its "progressive" but its not progressive at all!
And my 768 p set has about twice as much resolution as your "edtv", which probably at most puts out around 380 lines of resolution.
BUT whatever makes you happy...

After the usually back and forth I see the main issue was missed:

His Money
His Preference
His decision

And I think the bottom line was keeping the cost down.

I didn't see where he was stating that the EDTV was better than any other display, but that it will serve the propose he needed. Some time we need to take a step back and just read what is presented and stop adding our own 2-3 5 cents worth of what is better. So if I only have 5 dollars to buy a t-shirt, don't tell me how much better a 50 dollar dress shirt would be.

It would serve the person more if the comments would have been on which EDTV has a better track record or helping with further decision on the HT setup:

A good DVD to match with the EDTV to get the best picture possible

AVR that could control all function (switching)

What other display's that could been purchased at the same cost.

That just the way I saw the post from the start! maybe I forgot to look between the lines.

[Rich-n-Texas]

This is a statement I find absolutely rediculous:

WHO CARES ABOUT DVD?

Or are you just joking?

Let's talk in the here-and-now dude. Just because you don't care about DVD technology, it's advantages and shortcomings, doesn't mean the 1,000,000's of others who buy and rent them don't. Like it or not pix, DVD is today's technology, but once again, you're injecting your own personal preferences and ignoring Pat P.'s original observations and opinions. I'm willing to bet the people here who've pointed out this characteristic of yours in the past don't post in threads that you participate in anymore for just that reason. Too bad too because there's a lot of wisdom and helpful information to be had.

I don't spend a lot of time analyzing or trying to educate myself on matters such as interlaced vs progressive, 380 lines vs 768 lines, I'm more concerned with the end result. What I have now with my DLP vs what I had on my 27" CRT just blows me away. I'm happy with what I've got. And like recoveryone said, "If it makes you happy is all that really matters anyway." You come on like people don't know what makes them happy and you're here to tell them what does make them happy. I've worked with an engineer for the past five years who's just like you so I have a good idea about what makes people like you tick.

Live and let live dude... JMO.

[pixelthis]

This is a statement I find absolutely rediculous:

Or are you just joking?

Let's talk in the here-and-now dude. Just because you don't care about DVD technology, it's advantages and shortcomings, doesn't mean the 1,000,000's of others who buy and rent them don't. Like it or not pix, DVD is today's technology, but once again, you're injecting your own personal preferences and ignoring Pat P.'s original observations and opinions. I'm willing to bet the people here who've pointed out this characteristic of yours in the past don't post in threads that you participate in anymore for just that reason. Too bad too because there's a lot of wisdom and helpful information to be had.

I don't spend a lot of time analyzing or trying to educate myself on matters such as interlaced vs progressive, 380 lines vs 768 lines, I'm more concerned with the end result. What I have now with my DLP vs what I had on my 27" CRT just blows me away. I'm happy with what I've got. And like recoveryone said, "If it makes you happy is all that really matters anyway." You come on like people don't know what makes them happy and you're here to tell them what does make them happy. I've worked with an engineer for the past five years who's just like you so I have a good idea about what makes people like you tick.

Live and let live dude... JMO.

WHERE TO START
1) If it makes you happy to buy an inferiour product at almost (or more) than a superiour
product fine, whatever floats your boat, but like you said people cruise these sites
for info, and the person who started this thread is so far off the mark I had to respond
with a few inconvienent things called facts.
To let stand the total nonsense this guy posted would be the height of irresponsibility.
He is actually saying that a INTERLACED source is better than an INTERLACED
source! DVD is INTERLACED 480 lines!
As for not caring about things like resolution, etc, its easy to see you are in the marketing end of your company, with people like your engineer friend bursting your bubble all of the time with these messy little "facts".
Trutth is, you work for a company that produces a display device that is greyscale, and
charges so much that you cant use three to get color, and have no clue that even as we speak the marketplace is answering back with a resounding NO WAY
But I digress, if the person who started this thread is happy with his inferior way of watching things fine, but get your facts right, okay?
AS for "who cares about dvd" I am talking about the fact that the tech is mature, you wont get any more out of it, not to mention people who get HDTV tell me that they watch DVD less and less, the picture compared to HD just doesnt cut it.
Sure its good compared to NTSC broadcasts but what isnt?
As for contrast, color saturation, etc, I havent found ANYBODY who thinks standard def is better that high def, which is basically what you're saying
Plasmas have the same black level problems that all of the new display formats have,
and have serious burn-in and longetivity issues.
But the most galling thing is the complete misrepresentation of your original post.
You quoted a site that is ten years old, and the people on that site arent advocating 480p, they are advocating 720p! (which is at least twice as good as 480p btw)
I might make mistakes, we all do, and I post off the fly on this site, but am right pretty most of the time.
You wanna impress chicks with your "plasma" fine, more power to ya, but dont EVEN
start with saying its "as good" as any high def source
Just state the truth, its an inferiour display tech thats as expensive (or more so) than a lot of better devices out there, the only reason you want one is to say you have a "PLASMA"
TV, which is fine.
But a good picture is just more important to me, is all

[PAT.P]

You wanna impress chicks with your "plasma" fine, more power to ya, but dont EVEN
start with saying its "as good" as any high def source
Just state the truth, its an inferiour display tech thats as expensive (or more so) than a lot of better devices out there, the only reason you want one is to say you have a "PLASMA"
TV, which is fine.
But a good picture is just more important to me, is all

What are you talking about?I started this thread for info i vs p and the way it works.I did'nt compare 480p to 720p but to a 540 i yes. I have a Sharp lcd hdtv ready and dont want cable box on it.This plasma is in our living room and we dont spend hours watching tv but have a large collection of dvd music concert ,music video and movies.The price was right at this time of the game and it does'nt take much room.

[pixelthis]

What are you talking about?I started this thread for info i vs p and the way it works.I did'nt compare 480p to 720p but to a 540 i yes. I have a Sharp lcd hdtv ready and dont want cable box on it.This plasma is in our living room and we dont spend hours watching tv but have a large collection of dvd music concert ,music video and movies.The price was right at this time of the game and it does'nt take much room.

Well, I hope you enjoy it, I really do, I have over 150 dvds myself (inc a lot of concert stuff)
but I get perplexed as to why people buy stuff like "edtv", I just think my DVDS
LOOK BETTER on hdtv, an HDTV just gets more out of this format is all.
AS for rich on paper I hope his company makes plenty of money, so he can keep that nice house of his.
Besides they're gonna need it when all of these class action lawsuits hit from people
getting killed changing the bulbs in their TV in a few years

[PAT.P]

After the usually back and forth I see the main issue was missed:

His Money
His Preference
His decision

And I think the bottom line was keeping the cost down.

I didn't see where he was stating that the EDTV was better than any other display, but better track record or helping with further decision on the HT setup:

A good DVD to match with the EDTV to get the best picture possible

AVR that could control all function (switching)

What other display's that could been purchased at the same cost.

That just the way I saw the post from the start! maybe I forgot to look between the lines.

BINGO! Not ready to fork out$$$ at this time of the game (HT receiver with HDMI 1.3,new DVD ) Im always 1 to 2years later for technology and its fine to me.Need to pay down my line of credit from renovation( 6 months no rental income ,building materials,paid labor ) thats my priority.