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    Classical Music

    Quote Originally Posted by hershon
    I was expecting fireworks and visions of an entire orchestra in my room, and for my ears only- I'm not a classical music buff but I like the stuff I mentioned, it wasn't 1/4 as spectacular as Yes's fragile. Everything's on Ebay now!
    Hersh, I can't compare DVD-A to SACD, but what you are hearing on Yes's Fragile is typically more subtle in classical music. I've used classical music to audition equipment, especially speakers, for years and they provide a very good measure to my ears.

    I close my eyes and pretend I'm in a concert hall, sitting front-row center. Each time a new instrument starts to play in a symphony, I try to visualize exactly where in front or around me it is located. The better I can localize the instruments, the better the equipment or piece. I also look for the detail and clarity of the instrument and the richness of the bass (Cello and Organ are good measurements for that). Over the years I have collected several versions (CD and SACD) of the familiar recordings such as:

    - Beethoven's Symphony #5, fourth movement
    - Respighi's Pines of Rome, second movement
    - Alan Hovhaness, Storm on Mount Wildcat
    - Marcel Dupre, Magnificat VI: Gloria finale

    Among others, that I have come to know very well and know what to expect from. I just wouldn't be able to do this with rock, jazz, or pop music, although I do use other music to audition equipment. For example, on a James Taylor SACD, there are fewer instruments to pick out.

    I also have several versions of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, including the new one from Telarc with the real cannons (which is the one that's in most stores), and I must confess that apart from the cannon fire from my sub, it's not really that impressive. Sometimes I wonder if I get more kicks out of AC/DC's For Those About to Rock, but it's a whole different mindset for me to get into. One thing that SACD has helped me with quite a bit is setting up my surround system apropriately for movies. I find that surround music, particularly classical music, raises the bar a bit.

    Ironically, many rock artists, including Yes were deeply influenced by classical music.

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    Nightflier that's the 1812 Overture DVD-A I have

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    "I also have several versions of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, including the new one from Telarc with the real cannons (which is the one that's in most stores), and I must confess that apart from the cannon fire from my sub, it's not really that impressive"

    Those are my thoughts exactly. The cannons are great but the rest of it I wasn't impressed with- not talking about the music or its quality but with how it was put out on DVD-A. You should buy Yes's Fragile even if you're not into them just for a great reference to compare how these discs should sound like. I'm glad NAbstentia mentioned that one because while I liked Yes I didn't really like them enough to see them or buy their music and buying this DVD-A was a total sonic revalation to me. Whoever mixed it did an incredible job. I thought The Who's Tommy that Pete Townshend remixed was going to be similar but while it wasn't disasterous it wasn't fireworks either. Who knows what goes into the heads of some of these group leaders. I'm still waiting for Charles Manson's "Lie" to come out. Manson believe it or not actually did write and sing some good songs- if you think I'm nuts listen to Look At Your Game Girl which Guns and Roses covered at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip.../4359/lie.html

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    Non capito DVD-A, sole SACD, capish?

    Quote Originally Posted by hershon
    Those are my thoughts exactly. The cannons are great but the rest of it I wasn't impressed with- not talking about the music or its quality but with how it was put out on DVD-A. You should buy Yes's Fragile even if you're not into them just for a great reference to compare how these discs should sound like.
    Alas, I only have SACD, so the only Yes I have is on CD. That said, I am curious to hear if the 1812 DVD-A is different from the SACD. Anyone out there have a universal player that's willing to test this?

    Another question regarding the main topic: anyone ever try to copy an SACD? I've made copies of the hybrid SACD's two channel track onto blank CD's, but that was with two components via the RCA jacks, not a computer.

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    Yeah you can copy an SACD's hybrid layer just like a normal CD, but not the SACD layer.

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