Ain't it Funny How Vizio.....

[rich66]

Ok thanks Hyfi sorry for the inconvenience

[Woochifer]

Once it got "decent' reviews and semi-respectable, has jacked up it's prices to where they're HIGHER than some top tier brands. I was looking for a small LCD 27 to 30 inches for a friends bedroom and the Vizio priced for 1080P at those prices is outrageous.

My how the worm has turned.

Worf

Well, back on topic here, the issue with Vizio is that they need to maintain a price advantage in order to sustain sales. If the prices are equal, Vizio would not be the first choice with most consumers. Since they rely totally on outsource manufacturers and don't do any of their own R&D, they maintain less control over the margins than first tier manufacturers that make their own sets and/or do their own R&D.

With prices and margins falling through the floor, Vizio no longer has as big a price advantage as they did when HDTVs cost more than $2,000. That why they retooled their strategy a couple of years ago by moving more into the midlevel territory, where the margins and price points have not been squeezed as hard.

Your experience has less to do with Vizio charging more than it does the price points dropping with the first tier manufacturers to a point where Vizio no longer has a price advantage with the entry level sets. Right now, entry level HDTVs barely cost more than the bill of goods for the parts.

That's why Vizio has moved over to the midlevel HDTV and accessories markets, where margins are still high enough that they have some room to undercut the prices.

[pixelthis]

Well, back on topic here, the issue with Vizio is that they need to maintain a price advantage in order to sustain sales. If the prices are equal, Vizio would not be the first choice with most consumers. Since they rely totally on outsource manufacturers and don't do any of their own R&D, they maintain less control over the margins than first tier manufacturers that make their own sets and/or do their own R&D.

With prices and margins falling through the floor, Vizio no longer has as big a price advantage as they did when HDTVs cost more than $2,000. That why they retooled their strategy a couple of years ago by moving more into the midlevel territory, where the margins and price points have not been squeezed as hard.

Your experience has less to do with Vizio charging more than it does the price points dropping with the first tier manufacturers to a point where Vizio no longer has a price advantage with the entry level sets. Right now, entry level HDTVs barely cost more than the bill of goods for the parts.

That's why Vizio has moved over to the midlevel HDTV and accessories markets, where margins are still high enough that they have some room to undercut the prices.

You can stop with all of the outsourcing nonsense...
NOBODY CARES, as long as the set works(they do) and the price is reasonable(it is).
Thats where a lot of these Vizio haters come from, they just can't stand the way Vizio operates. WELL, TOUGH.

[Woochifer]

You can stop with all of the outsourcing nonsense...

How's it nonsense if it's TRUE? Are you saying that Vizio makes their own TVs (they don't) or that that they handle their own customer service (they don't) or that they do their own R&D (they don't)?

NOBODY CARES, as long as the set works(they do) and the price is reasonable(it is).

It matters in that Vizio cannot maintain their pricing advantage once the margins get as razor thin as they currently are. That's why they're moving to the midmarket, because they can no longer trump Samsung, LG, Sony, or Panasonic's entry level models on price.

Thats where a lot of these Vizio haters come from, they just can't stand the way Vizio operates. WELL, TOUGH.

How is it "hating" by pointing out the reality of their business plan? Fanboys like you just keep attacking the messenger without addressing anything (or even reading the whole post for that matter).

[pixelthis]

[QUOTE=Woochifer;362438]How's it nonsense if it's TRUE? Are you saying that Vizio makes their own TVs (they don't) or that that they handle their own customer service (they don't) or that they do their own R&D (they don't)?

I AM SAYING that nobody cares (they don't)

It matters in that Vizio cannot maintain their pricing advantage once the margins get as razor thin as they currently are. That's why they're moving to the midmarket, because they can no longer trump Samsung, LG, Sony, or Panasonic's entry level models on price.

THEY ARE MOVIN ON UP for the same reason that a lot do...
SUCCESS. You might hate it, but I don't think they asked you,
but having built market share, its time to cash in some.
THE American way

How is it "hating" by pointing out the reality of their business plan? Fanboys like you just keep attacking the messenger without addressing anything (or even reading the whole post for that matter).

Not a "fanboy", just admiring a well run company.
AND YOU HAVENT "noticed" the REAL REALITY of their
"business plan", mainly that IT WORKS LIKE A DREAM.
Argue with success all you want, people will either think you
are delusional or stupid.
VIZIO is number one, and that is ONE thing you can't argue with.
Don't like it? BUY A "botique" overpriced set with a fractional improvement, and pay through the nose for it.
ITS CALLED capitalism, although you liberaltards have no understanding of it whatsoever.

[Woochifer]

I AM SAYING that nobody cares (they don't)

In other words, every point I made was TRUE and not the "nonsense" that you claimed it was. And BTW, there are people out there that do care about these issues, that's why they don't buy Vizios.

THEY ARE MOVIN ON UP for the same reason that a lot do...
SUCCESS. You might hate it, but I don't think they asked you,
but having built market share, its time to cash in some.
THE American way

Quite the contrary, they are moving up market because they HAVE TO. Right now, they are in a bad competitive position in the entry level because they can no longer maintain a price advantage over the first tier brands. If they stayed in their previous market niche, they will die on the vine because consumers are not going to choose Vizio over first tier brands if the prices are comparable.

Not a "fanboy", just admiring a well run company.

In other words, you're a fanboy.

[Worf101]

Well, back on topic here, the issue with Vizio is that they need to maintain a price advantage in order to sustain sales. If the prices are equal, Vizio would not be the first choice with most consumers. Since they rely totally on outsource manufacturers and don't do any of their own R&D, they maintain less control over the margins than first tier manufacturers that make their own sets and/or do their own R&D.

With prices and margins falling through the floor, Vizio no longer has as big a price advantage as they did when HDTVs cost more than $2,000. That why they retooled their strategy a couple of years ago by moving more into the midlevel territory, where the margins and price points have not been squeezed as hard.

Your experience has less to do with Vizio charging more than it does the price points dropping with the first tier manufacturers to a point where Vizio no longer has a price advantage with the entry level sets. Right now, entry level HDTVs barely cost more than the bill of goods for the parts.

That's why Vizio has moved over to the midlevel HDTV and accessories markets, where margins are still high enough that they have some room to undercut the prices.

Thanks for basically educating me on Vizio's recent strategy. I appreciate you staying "on point". I was actually hoping to buy a product from the OLD Vizio, large "decent" and cheap, but found their prices had risen exponentially. Still things will sort themselves out eventually.

Worf

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[Worf101]

66 post later

That was funny.... but true. Tried to give you green love recently but it won't let me!!!!!

Worf

[GMichael]

That was funny.... but true. Tried to give you green love recently but it won't let me!!!!!

Worf

I got a green shot off for you.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I got a green shot off for you.

I hope he can wipe it off.....

[GMichael]

I hope he can wipe it off.....

Let me know how you make out with yours.