Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody
I didn't say CV's were, in my, or your, opinion, the "best" speaker option. But apparently he done, at the least, some comparison, and CV was what he liked. I think most start out thinking big woofers are the way to go, and they still could be, if your only musical taste was Rap, but an educated ear will eventually learn a smaller woofer is faster and more accurate done properly.

Unless some one has more money than they know what to do with upgrades have to be done gradually. Scrapping your entire system is pretty much not an option. So he could start with improving his current situation and taking steps from there. With that large of speakers and 2 centers in that size space, I'm wondering if the listening chair is the only thing else there is room for So many people use the car audio mentallity with home subs as well, if 12:00 is good, then 3 or 6:00 must be better. Not so though. your sub amp needs headroom for peaks and operate with out distortion for clean bass response.

You don't start school in the 12th grade, you get there gradually. I'm just saying there could have been more thought put into the responses and definitely more tact. There are many here with some expensive higher end gear, I don't think those who are running receivers would appreciate us telling them their system is crap and they need to go out and get better gear. What amazes me is how many have good gear, yet don't have a good playback source. I've gotten tired of trying to explain the importance of a good front end and hope that some day those ears may opened by an audition. Music playback has different priorities in peoples lives, we all have different means and we are all not on the same level of experience, so we need to consider this and have some respect. The AR forums should be for all of what I mentioned and we have to be careful as to not run people off with our attitude. Aside from everything else, JL may be a younger guy and not ready for a system with more resolution, preferring a system with SPL and thump.

And, in all of your defense, mama, or somebody, once said, "don't ask the question, if you aren't ready for the answer", or was it, "be careful what you ask because you might not like the answer", or, did I hear both..... hmmmmm
Where to start.
Sometimes you just have to trash the whole (as the english say) kit and start over.
There is no redeeming value in cerwins whatsoever, why waste your time?
My first speakers were optimus, thats right, from "the shack", they were pretty good for the day, with pretty decent drivers. They were replaced by Genesis as soon as possible.
As for Pioneer their new stuff is a faint shadow of their older stuff.
A friend fished a SX-90 from a dumpster once, gave it to me, worked perefectly and I later sold it for a 100$ They dont make em like that anymore.
And finally, the "receiver" is a two edged sword, an all purpose utility knife that allows
a lot of people to have a higher quality system than they normally could.
but there is the law of diminishing returns, when you get to a certain level and your "receiver" is big enough to double as a coffee table its time to start thinking seperates.
Something where the amps dont share the same power supply, where precious resources
aren't wasted on a vestigal "FM TUNER " that nobody listens to anymore,
where system control is a pre-pro with a lot more versitility than a mere receiver.
Some get stuck on the receiver form factor, but a receiver should be a stepping stone.
The only reason I have never gone to seperates is finances, my receiver has a great
front end that was going to be a stepping stone, but the amp that I wanted to plug into it has become a casualty of circumstances
If your receiver is okay you should never replace it, you should plug an amp into it, then
later you can replace it with a pre-pro.
Thats the idea, at least