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    It's like visiting several churches of different religions. They will ALL try to sell you on their God. In the end you have to see which church is better for you based on what they do for you. Just try some out, talk to some freinds with similar systems. I believe there are differences.
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    Be careful, this is one of the most intense and bitter debates in the audio world.
    Yes, people fail 100% of the time to consistenly demonstrate that they can hear audible differences between cables.
    Yes, these tests are not conclusive or all encompassing in determining that these differences don't exist, and are flawed in many ways.

    I think the bigger point here is what is the most effective allocation of your financial resources. Pretty much everyone I know will put cables dead last when building a system...that should tell you something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kexodusc
    Be careful, this is one of the most intense and bitter debates in the audio world.

    Next to religion. Even though you want to kill some people in the audio world, it's safe to say it only happens in the religious world.


    Yes, people fail 100% of the time to consistenly demonstrate that they can hear audible differences between cables.

    People also fail to prove there is a Diety.


    Yes, these tests are not conclusive or all encompassing in determining that these differences don't exist, and are flawed in many ways.

    So are peoples beliefs in their religion of choice.


    I think the bigger point here is what is the most effective allocation of your financial resources.

    Exactly. It's my money. If I want to buy an expensive cable, that's my call and I should'nt be chastised for it.


    Pretty much everyone I know will put cables dead last when building a system...that should tell you something.


    The people I know put just an importance on cables as anything else in their system. Maybe THAT should tell you something.


    Anyway, that's just one guys opinion.
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    Rycher, I put importance on cables too, my point is to not try buying a $500 cable to fix or supplement $500 speakers, unless you're sure that will sound better than any other use of $1000...it's just not effective...They don't by nature contribute as much to the sound, though shouldn't be neglected.

    As for your comments about religion and dieties...not sure what blind faith has to do with a item we actually CAN physically touch, see, and hear and measure. I trust when people tell me they hear a difference, that they do in fact hear it, not that they blindly believe that difference exists and trick themselves into hearing it. If they then fail to demonstrate this, then there's either a flaw in the test (psychologist will argue this about DBT's) or the differences are perhaps very small and indistinguishable.
    But there is a some validity when tests of other equipment in the chain DO present valid, consistent results. Why not cables? What's so special about them?

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    You are correct. My point about religion was to compare most people's "blind faith" in whether or not cables make a difference. People can't prove there is a God, yet they constantly swear that he makes a difference in their lives. Maybe there is an as of yet unfound "nugget" proving that God/cables do make a difference (I know it is totally and completely hilarious to compare audio cables to God, but it's more the "scientificly proven facts" I am relaying here). I really think there is a part of human hearing that is yet to be founded by scientific facts. Spending upwards of $100.00 in cables, IMO, IS a waste of money - none the less you should not neglect cables for the fact that there are no proven studies indicating they make no difference. There are, after all, a lot of people who do hear a difference.
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