High dollar speaker cables and speaker crossovers

[Resident Loser]

If a cable supposedly enhances bass (as I have heard about an XLO and other products) or whatever, I would say that it is a poorly designed cable

...Wire is "passive" it cannot enhance anything...what it can do is attenuate the higher frequencies...it's all relative...so in all honesty, it may not be a "poorly designed" cable...it may be just what it's designer wanted: a tone control...I prefer mine to be in the shape of a knob and be defeatable when not required.

Most of the 'high end"-types eschew tone controls per se only to "wire in" a similar, non-adjustable fuction...

jimHJJ(...Hi-Fi: Straight wire with gain...)

[E-Stat]

...Wire is "passive" it cannot enhance anything...what it can do is attenuate the higher frequencies...

As well as conduct RFI making them sound bright and hard as nails, shrink the soundstage and lose overall resolution.

rw

[Resident Loser]

As well as conduct RFI making them sound bright and hard as nails, shrink the soundstage and lose overall resolution...

...you have something other than anecdotal speculation to support this?

Gee, where have I heard that before?

I seem to remember the radio frequency range begins at around 3kHz and has no assignment up to around 9kHz...from that point till 14kHz it's used for radionavigation...above that to approximately 20k it's dedicated to mostly mobile maritime traffic...

I also seem to recall that wavelength is inversely proportional to frequency...that the length of the receiving antenna is best to be a quarter or half-wave of that frequency's wavelength...and that signal strength is dependent on proximity to the source of the transmission.

Sooo, all things being equal, to have RFI impinge on a say, the 10 to 20kHz signal via wire in the signal path, hereafter to be known as the bright and hard as nails region, the interference would need to have a wavelength of approximately 2-4 miles and your antenna would need to be roughly a mile for the quarter-wave and 2.0mi for the deluxe half-wave model. Cheez, and I thought my 50ft/ch was a bit much.

Seems as though you would need to reside unpleasantly near a Coast Guard base and have an awful lot of wire from your amp to your speakers for this to really matter.

Of course, there can be RFI coming from many things...from a Sharper Image "Ionic Breeze" to an electric blanket...unfortunately(or perhaps fortunately) these things seem to spew out their nasties @152kHz and above...still requires miles of wire to act as an antenna.

Of course, the preceeding gibberish has come from the mind of one who may not be in full control of his faculties, so take it or leave it as you choose...however,

You have taken the cited quote completely out of context and made much ado about naught...in response to Billiam's bass-enhanced wire scenario, my response stands...RFI (which can be sucessfully supressed by the shielding on ICs and similar suitable treatment for speaker umbilicals) was never even mentioned until your inclusion of it...even so, RFIs ability to "...shrink the soundstage and lose overall resolution..." seems to be wishful thinking.

jimHJJ(...or something like that...)

[E-Stat]

...you have something other than anecdotal speculation to support this?

Nope. Just the shared experience of a cast of thousands.

I seem to remember...etc, etc...Of course, the preceeding gibberish has come from the mind of one who may not be in full control of his faculties, so take it or leave it as you choose...

Ok.

You have taken the cited quote completely out of context.

I merely pointed out other audible manifestations that "can" occur with wire in an audio context based upon my experience (and that of others). Yes, Virginia one can find bright sounding interconnects and speaker wires whether by commission or lack of prevention. I have some.

rw

[jtgofish]

Resident Loser,I have to agree -most cables are just tone adjusters but many also lack coherence and timing-most multi stands for instance just sound wrong once you have heard even quite cheap solid core-and this must be to do with electron transfer differences between the two types.Of course to really hear this the internal wiring of your speakers should also be solid core and most aren't.Multi strand is used because it is less prone to break and easier to teminate-but it sounds like crap.