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    Quote Originally Posted by pctower
    I'll even go out on a limb and make a quasi-claim. I doubt that few audiophiles (and particularly ones that usually hang out on this board) have ever heard a system that even comes close in performance to mine.

    Had they, I personally can't imagine how they could be so cock-sure of themselves.
    Well, you are on the safe side of the bet here. How are you going to test this? Who will haul his rig to your home to compare, DBT? Just like the cuts in taxes No way to test it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtrycraft
    Just like the cuts in taxes No way to test it.
    Every major federal income tax reduction from JFK's to Ronald Reagan's to W's has resulted in an increase in overall tax revenue. The IRS stats are easy to find on www.irs.gov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Stat
    Every major federal income tax reduction from JFK's to Ronald Reagan's to W's has resulted in an increase in overall tax revenue. The IRS stats are easy to find on www.irs.gov.

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    Ah, so for you that is a cause and effect? How gullible of you. Why not just cyclical natural events? The more income the more taxes are paid. Oh, yes, I forgot, you need a tax cut to make more income, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtrycraft
    Why not just cyclical natural events? Oh, yes, I forgot, you need a tax cut to make more income, right?
    Because they were not cyclical. The answer to your second question is yes. Remember that 80% of all income tax is paid by the top 10% of filers. I have done some independent consulting before. Given the marginal tax rate and paying both sides of FICA, it adds up to 47%. At that rate, I have little incentive to work harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtrycraft
    Well, you are on the safe side of the bet here. How are you going to test this? Who will haul his rig to your home to compare, DBT? Just like the cuts in taxes No way to test it.
    Of course there is no way to test it. I'm merely expressing my opinion based on my personal experience. In other words, I've moved from discussing things as if the purpose of home audio was to serve as a lab for scientific testing to discussing home audio as if it were meant primary as a souce of enjoyment.

    If you hadn't noticed, in the "real" world, people express personal opinions all the time. Some involve questions of taste, not subject to validation. Others involve objective issues that are subject to validation. But most of us don't worry about stuff like validating every opinion we hear expressed. We take personal opinions with a grain of salt and try things for ourselves. Those of us who are secure and self-confident enough to make our own decisions about what we like and don't like need neither scientific validation nor the validation one might get over at Cable Asylum.

    As I said above, I have said every possible thing I can think of regarding objective validation. I'm tired of repeating myself. I've been an audiophile for over 30 years. For those who believe subjective opinions of such a person might have value, perhaps I can make some small contribution. For those like you who find such stuff unreliable and "worthless", that's your choice. In the end, we each live with the consequences of our choices. What I know is that I'm currently living with one of the most enjoyable systems I have ever heard.

    While you provide very good information to a newcomer, I believe that on the whole your obsessive effort to discourage people from just trying cables and other things for themselves. I believe someone who follows that advice may never know what he could be missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pctower
    Of course there is no way to test it. I'm merely expressing my opinion based on my personal experience. In other words, I've moved from discussing things as if the purpose of home audio was to serve as a lab for scientific testing to discussing home audio as if it were meant primary as a souce of enjoyment.

    If you hadn't noticed, in the "real" world, people express personal opinions all the time. Some involve questions of taste, not subject to validation. Others involve objective issues that are subject to validation. But most of us don't worry about stuff like validating every opinion we hear expressed. We take personal opinions with a grain of salt and try things for ourselves. Those of us who are secure and self-confident enough to make our own decisions about what we like and don't like need neither scientific validation nor the validation one might get over at Cable Asylum.

    As I said above, I have said every possible thing I can think of regarding objective validation. I'm tired of repeating myself. I've been an audiophile for over 30 years. For those who believe subjective opinions of such a person might have value, perhaps I can make some small contribution. For those like you who find such stuff unreliable and "worthless", that's your choice. In the end, we each live with the consequences of our choices. What I know is that I'm currently living with one of the most enjoyable systems I have ever heard.

    While you provide very good information to a newcomer, I believe that on the whole your obsessive effort to discourage people from just trying cables and other things for themselves. I believe someone who follows that advice may never know what he could be missing.
    Well said. Our experience is quite similar. I had a pretty decent Advent-Dynaco-Lenco-Shure system when I was 16 thirty one years ago. If I had believed there was none better, I would never have been exposed to equipment that has given me immense pleasure over many a year. I still enjoy the discovery of hearing even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pctower
    Of course there is no way to test it. I'm merely expressing my opinion based on my personal experience. In other words, I've moved from discussing things as if the purpose of home audio was to serve as a lab for scientific testing to discussing home audio as if it were meant primary as a souce of enjoyment.

    If you hadn't noticed, in the "real" world, people express personal opinions all the time. Some involve questions of taste, not subject to validation. Others involve objective issues that are subject to validation. But most of us don't worry about stuff like validating every opinion we hear expressed. We take personal opinions with a grain of salt and try things for ourselves. Those of us who are secure and self-confident enough to make our own decisions about what we like and don't like need neither scientific validation nor the validation one might get over at Cable Asylum.

    As I said above, I have said every possible thing I can think of regarding objective validation. I'm tired of repeating myself. I've been an audiophile for over 30 years. For those who believe subjective opinions of such a person might have value, perhaps I can make some small contribution. For those like you who find such stuff unreliable and "worthless", that's your choice. In the end, we each live with the consequences of our choices. What I know is that I'm currently living with one of the most enjoyable systems I have ever heard.

    While you provide very good information to a newcomer, I believe that on the whole your obsessive effort to discourage people from just trying cables and other things for themselves. I believe someone who follows that advice may never know what he could be missing.
    I am not discouraging anyone to try cables, only the problems associated with such trials. They should know those problems and how it relates to the outcome.

    Same with what you stated. You may have a very fine system, that is not the point, especially your enjoyment of it.You don't remember a poster from the distant past, eyespy,

    http://2eyespy.tripod.com/myaudioand...epage/id3.html

    had expensive cable because he enjoyd them, not because he could tell audible differences. He never claimd such.

    But, some may get the idea that that is the answer for hearing differences. No, your system is for your enjoyment. My boombox is for my enjoyment And, e-stats is for his enjoyment. No harm meant
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