May be a table finally.

[Mr Peabody]

Hey, even if the 2.1 can't track to 5 grams it's nothing a few quarters and some tape can't fix

[poppachubby]

I think just about any cart on a VPI will sound great, or at the very least, as it's meant to.

Yes I have a Red. As you will eventually have happen, I broke the stylus while dusting an LP. My long sleeve was loose and I was carelesssly too close. It snagged and that was that. I literally picked it up off the ground and snuggled it like a dead pet. Pathetic really.

So anyhow, I had it for roughly 3 months before that. The Blue I have heard on a friends Pro-Ject RPM5 many times and at my local shop also. There are subtle differences, but as I said tracking is exceptional. It's subjective depending on system, but I my experience is that the Blue delivers better highs than the Red. They are more detailed and "real" sounding. Moving from that the upper mids were much smoother. I never really heard a big improvement in bass, but again, subjective.

I thought about sending you the Red cart, but you may as well just buy yourself a brand new one rather than just a stylus. Keep in mind about the OM-20, begin researching it. For that matter the whole OM family.

Here's the Red on my SL-Q2...(sniffle)...I'll buy another stylus but I have a Shure and a Sumiko on the go. I may get it while I have the Sumiko re-tipped.

[Enochrome]

Hey Frenchmon,

Can't wait to know what you think of your TT matched with the OM-10? I just got my OM-20 working and matched with my Luxman: it is consistently blowing my mind!!!
Thanks to the always generous and cool Poppa and Audionoob, I am in their camp of OM series fan. Post as soon as you get a chance!

[02audionoob]

Phil Spector looks like the OM20 just blew his mind...

[Enochrome]

Haahahahaaaahhhhaaa!! That is exactly what I felt like last night, but with a smile on my face. Thank god I didn't go out last night, and that Spector changed his doo before entering the pen!!!

Awesome Audionoob!!!!!!!!!!

[frenchmon]

Back in the 70' and 80's my fro was about that size.

frenchmon

[Mr Peabody]

You guys with this bumping up the subs will have this place sounding like a car stereo contest before you know it

[Mr Peabody]

Jack, you are doing what I did, upgrading table and cart at same time. I did try a Rega P2 and Rega cart for audition before I got the P3 & Elys. I'm happy with the combo but wonder how other carts would compare. Looking forward to hearing how you like your new rig.

[Jack in Wilmington]

Jack, you are doing what I did, upgrading table and cart at same time. I did try a Rega P2 and Rega cart for audition before I got the P3 & Elys. I'm happy with the combo but wonder how other carts would compare. Looking forward to hearing how you like your new rig.

Thanks Mr. P. It was the one part of my system that I felt was not on the same level as the rest. I addressed the analog part last because I didn't take it seriously. I had turntables in the 70's and 80's and when CD's came along, I moved with the times. Now with better speakers, amps, cables, etc. I can really feel the richness in analog and want to continue to explore.

[frenchmon]

Thanks Mr. P. It was the one part of my system that I felt was not on the same level as the rest. I addressed the analog part last because I didn't take it seriously. I had turntables in the 70's and 80's and when CD's came along, I moved with the times. Now with better speakers, amps, cables, etc. I can really feel the richness in analog and want to continue to explore.

Jack...I too changed with the times when CD came. I even sold all my albums back in the 80's. Then within the last month I got the itch to try vinyl again and boy am I glad I did. Vinyl has a warmth that CD or SACD just cant touch. There seems to be more depth and thickness to the music with Vinyl...brass seems to have more meat to it and a guitar sounds more real. The only thing I hate about turntables is you gotta get up and turn over the vinyl. I still have two weeks to go before my month is up to send it back and get a better table, and I have been wondering about a simi-automatic table that has an automatic return. I called MusicDirect and they said to send it back. My plans where to keep it for about 6-12 months but now that you have traded yours in for a better table, its very tempting to do the same thing. I really do like the MMF 2.1. I have been wearing Paul Desmond and Dexter Gordon out with a little blues from Joe Williams and Big Joe Turner.

frenchmon

[frenchmon]

Jack, you are doing what I did, upgrading table and cart at same time. I did try a Rega P2 and Rega cart for audition before I got the P3 & Elys. I'm happy with the combo but wonder how other carts would compare. Looking forward to hearing how you like your new rig.

MrP...I will be doing a shoot out with the Goldring Elan (music tracker) Ortofon OM-10 and the Ortofon 2M Red but of course it will be a slow process seeing you have to be careful changing out carts. I called Music Direct and they said the MM2.1 has been sitting in back a few years so the cart has way less than 50 hours on it. So its not even broken in yet.

I order the 2MRed from our friend at a discount price a few days ago...before I did I checked prices at MusicDirect and Needle doctor. Today I go to needle doctor and they have it in the closeout cheaper than what our friend sells for...not much cheaper, but never the less cheaper. If you want to try a 2M RED....get the discount price at needledoctor.com....its only $79 bucks.

[Mr Peabody]

I wouldn't upgrade on that Numark and the Elys was $400.00 or above so I doubt the Red would compare.

I don't believe you will find a high end table that is semi automatic. Most tables designed for sound quality keep anything that would cause noise away. I feel you though, especially on albums I'm not familiar with. About the fourth song I'm thinking is that it.... do I need to jump up..... I really get irritated when I do jump up, get about to the table and music begins on the next song

[frenchmon]

I wouldn't upgrade on that Numark and the Elys was $400.00 or above so I doubt the Red would compare.

I don't believe you will find a high end table that is semi automatic. Most tables designed for sound quality keep anything that would cause noise away. I feel you though, especially on albums I'm not familiar with. About the fourth song I'm thinking is that it.... do I need to jump up..... I really get irritated when I do jump up, get about to the table and music begins on the next song

How would there be noise if the return is after the music has stopped? Its not like there is noise if the music is playing

[frenchmon]

wrong thread