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    Lightbulb Another popped bubble.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Triodes have degeneration, not feedback. They ain;t the same --- sorry but you have no clue.
    Ho Hum ...from the same thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    theaudiohobby presented me with this 1953 article and says that sets all have feedback and there is no such thing as a no-feedback amp
    Quote Originally Posted by Horneman
    There is I believe indeed no..no feedback amp..that is no news..but there is such a thing a local feedback and global loop feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ57
    I offer no real rebuttal other than to say that those that understand tube circuits consider this info old, self-evident news. If someone wishes to model a triode as a pentode with "built-in" feedback that is their business and it may work for their needs within that model's limitations. Many such models are used. Some may model a pair of triodes in cascode as a pentode for example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorsten
    The triode has certain inherent features. Among them is that if the anode voltage is lowered the anode current lowers, because there is less tension between cathode and anode and thus less electrons are attracted by the anode from the cathode.

    Now we may call this a feedback mechanism or not.
    Now for the clincher..

    Quote Originally Posted by Stockman
    The method is of particular interest for control circuits and output stages utilizing low-ยต triodes, since the back action from the anode on the emission-controlling field at the cathode is then appreciable. Fundamentally, this electric field action is a form of negative feedback
    correlated to the transistor behaviour

    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    Simple transistor amplifiers use emitter degeneration to achieve negative feedback, which gives a relatively predictable gain compared to the gain of the transistor itself, which varies widely.
    Degeneration is fundamentally used to achieve negative feedback in analog circuits, it is as simple as that. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Another popped bubble.

    PS: You might as well give up now....Neither your english degree nor PQ marketing blurbs have equipped you for a technical discussion. Maybe I should post your blunders for the world to see that you do not know how to read FR graphs. Worse than that, you proceeded to do some character assasination in your referenced SET thread, shame on you .
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