Islam: Our Partners in Peace...

[Feanor]

How do we foster an era of education in cultures whose extremist contingencies like to keep that sort of thing to a minimum, or at least, control it?

Do you mean Iran, Afganistan? Or do you mean Alabama, Texas?

Religious extremists are bad nooz!! Whether Islamic Fundamentalists or Christian Fundamentalists, they are equally filled with self-righteous certainty.

[markw]

Do you mean Iran, Afganistan? Or do you mean Alabama, Texas?

Religious extremists are bad nooz!! Whether Islamic Fundamentalists or Christian Fundamentalists, they are equally filled with self-righteous certainty.

"O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee."


My, my... look who lives in a religiously fundamentalist country! You've got some nerve to talk about the US with those words in your national anthem, doncha?

But I guess that's just that famous Canadian self-delusion of of moral superiority kicking in again, eh?

But, yes, any time fundamentalists force their beliefs and laws on everyone it's bad. It's a good thing our constitution disallows that.

[Feanor]

"O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee."


My, my... look who lives in a religiously fundamentalist country! You've got some nerve to talk about the US with those words in your national anthem, doncha?

But I guess that's just that famous Canadian self-delusion of of moral superiority kicking in again, eh?

But, yes, any time fundamentalists force their beliefs and laws on everyone it's bad. It's a good thing our constitution disallows that.

Try not to be an ass. The point is I deplore religous fundamentalists what ever their religious flavor and where ever they are. And yes, there are a few in Canada.

[markw]

Try not to be an ass. The point is I deplore religous fundamentalists what ever their religious flavor and where ever they are. And yes, there are a few in Canada.

Wow. Two anti-US digs and then you tell me not to be an ass.

I'm not being an ass. I merely stooped to your level.

Didn't you like it? Too fargin' bad.

You should keep your jingoistic sphincter shut before posting your verbal diarrhea here.

[Feanor]

Wow. Two anti-US digs and then you tell me not to be an ass.

I'm not being an ass. I merely stooped to your level.

Didn't you like it? Too fargin' bad.

You should keep your jingoistic sphincter shut before posting your verbal diarrhea here.

Again please, who's the one who can't take it? Hypocrite.

[markw]

Again please, who's the one who can't take it? Hypocrite.

Who's talking about taking it? I can take it ...and I can dish it out.

You started with the jingoistic bullshiite and now you cry like a little baby when I throw it back at you?

Sheesh...

[02audionoob]

Do you mean Iran, Afganistan? Or do you mean Alabama, Texas?

What an outright jackass comment.

[Feanor]

What an outright jackass comment.

Or maybe not ... Bible Belt.

And yes, markw, is right, sort of, because there is a Bible belt in Canada too: see the same article.

[02audionoob]

Or maybe not ... Bible Belt.

Nah...trust me...it is. And you often are. But at least you're consistent.

[bobsticks]

What an outright jackass comment.

Really? Because the intent can be just as malevolent and controlling...

[02audionoob]

Really? Because the intent can be just as malevolent and controlling...

I don't understand this reaction to what I said, but to summarize my own thoughts:

1. Some people's knowledge of Texas, Alabama or other states in the southern US seems to be limited to tired stereotypes. My own education in the Texas public schools and colleges never once included a class on religion.

2. Atheists seem to have self-righteous certainty to equal or exceed the Christians, Jews and Muslims...combined.

3. These posts that require a dictionary and a thesaurus would probably be better off to just say what they mean and mean what they say.

[bobsticks]

I don't understand this reaction to what I said, but to summarize my own thoughts:

1. Some people's knowledge of Texas, Alabama or other states in the southern US seems to be limited to tired stereotypes. My own education in the Texas public schools and colleges never once included a class on religion..

My intent was not single out the South. I have spent significant time in Dallas, Florida, georgia and Louisianna. There I have been received almost universally with warmth, hospitality and civility.

My intent was to point out that the Middle East doesn't have a stranglehold on religious fundamentalism and extremism. As Americans we can't afford to be hypocritical on this issue. I have indeed, on occasion, seen it in the South...as I have on the Eastern seaboard and in the Midwest.

2. Atheists seem to have self-righteous certainty to equal or exceed the Christians, Jews and Muslims...combined.

Um...okay...but I'm not an athiest. I am, however, an individual that believes that people, all people, shouldn't be descrimated against (and definitely not exterminated) for spiritual beliefs that can neither be quantified nor qualified.

3. These posts that require a dictionary and a thesaurus would probably be better off to just say what they mean and mean what they say.

Much like everyone on these boards, I'm a busy guy. I tend to write quickly and off-the-cuff. It's not my responsibilty to take extra time to write down to the lowest common denominator.

[02audionoob]

My intent was not single out the South. I have spent significant time in Dallas, Florida, georgia and Louisianna. There I have been received almost universally with warmth, hospitality and civility.

My intent was to point out that the Middle East doesn't have a stranglehold on religious fundamentalism and extremism. As Americans we can't afford to be hypocritical on this issue. I have indeed, on occasion, seen it in the South...as I have on the Eastern seaboard and in the Midwest.



Um...okay...but I'm not an athiest. I am, however, an individual that believes that people, all people, shouldn't be descrimated against (and definitely not exterminated) for spiritual beliefs that can neither be quantified nor qualified.



Much like everyone on these boards, I'm a busy guy. I tend to write quickly and off-the-cuff. It's not my responsibilty to take extra time to write down to the lowest common denominator.

None of my points were aimed at you.

Regarding the Texas, Alabama issue and referring to Feanor's post...often people perpetuate a stereotype and try to pass it off as an intelligent thought.

Regarding atheists...again referring to Feanor's post in this thread as an example, atheists often complain about the Christians trying to impose their beliefs on others, while the atheists do the same.

Regarding the way posts are written...I was referring to the opposite of your style. Your style is the one I was favoring, even if I didn't understand one of your comments. I am actually amazed sometimes at the composition of some of the longer posts, so really I guess they don't bother me. I still sometimes read them, but usually only scan.

[ForeverAutumn]

None of my points were aimed at you. My point on the Texas, Alabama issue is that people like Feanor perpetuate a stereotype and try to pass it off as an intelligent thought. My point on atheists is that, again using Feanor as an example, they often complain about the Christians trying to impose their beliefs on others, while the atheists do the same. My point on the way posts are written was about exactly the opposite of your style. Your style is the one I was favoring, even if I didn't understand one of your comments.

Now who's stereotyping? I've known that I was an atheist for approximately 30 years. I've had people of many religions tell me I was going to hell, tell me that they'll pray for me, and try to convert me. I even had a co-worker completely stop talking to me when he found out I was atheist. I've never tried to convert anyone of religious belief to atheism. Believe what you want, frankly, its none of my business.

Don't complain about stereotypes and then impose yours on me.

[3LB]

Do you mean Iran, Afganistan? Or do you mean Alabama, Texas?

Do you really think personal freedom and access to education are as limited in the American south (people who have the right to vote, freedom of speech etc.) as they are in Islamic extremist controlled regimes (where they do not have a vote, free speech, etc)?

How can you make such a comparison?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and give you the benefit of the doubt and write that off to your 'just wanting to stir the pot'.

[bobsticks]

Do you mean Iran, Afganistan? Or do you mean Alabama, Texas?

Religious extremists are bad nooz!! Whether Islamic Fundamentalists or Christian Fundamentalists, they are equally filled with self-righteous certainty.

Yes...