If Romney gets in which country will America start a war with next?

[Feanor]

It may be that even the Mormons don't trust Romney - some are claiming that Romney has lied for 20 years to the Mormon church about his finances - and he may be "shunned" by them. According to the comment section anyway.
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Don't worry about it. If you gives as much to the LDS Church as he says he does, their attitude will be remarkably forgiving.

[markw]

According this link it looks like the entire muzzie world has declared war on us. Nobody can be dumb enough to think this is all because of a movie that hasn't even been released yet.

Funny, I don't recall such rancor directed towards us in 2008, even after four years of the evil Bush. It looks like the anointed one stuck his male appendage in a real hornet's nest. Whoever wins this election will certainly have their hands full.

And then our illustrious leader has one of his flying monkeys make the speech embedded in this link???

What's really scary is that some will actually believe it.

So, we're forced to ask ourselves: "Are we better of than we were four years ago?" What do you think?

Bankrupt green company executives and union auto workers need not answer.

[Feanor]

According this link it looks like the entire muzzie world has declared war on us. Nobody can be dumb enough to think this is all because of a movie that hasn't even been released yet.

Funny, I don't recall such rancor directed towards us in 2008, even after four years of the evil Bush. ...

You're right that the rancor isn't just caused by this one movie. However if you don't recall the like directed at the USA back in 2008, you must have being napping at the time.

What has changed is that the rancor isn't suppressed today as it was back then by dictators in places like Libya and Egypt.

[markw]

You're right that the rancor isn't just caused by this one movie. However if you don't recall the like directed at the USA back in 2008, you must have being napping at the time.

What has changed is that the rancor isn't suppressed today as it was back then by dictators in places like Libya and Egypt.

So, you're saying that brutal, oppressive, dictatorships are the only thing that works in the ME?

Perhaps that's so, but don't you find it odd that two countries we helped "liberate" were the first to stab us in the back?

First, there's Libya, who we helped free from Qaddafi, and we allowed them to oust (by inaction) Mubarak in Egypt, one of our oldest allies. ...and then all the little duckies fell in line.

Boy, Obama sure can pick 'em, can't he? Whose side is this schmuck on, anyway.

And, no, the e was not this hatred in 2008. I was alive and sentient then. Apparently, you were under the influence of some strong meds if you think it was this ugly.

[Feanor]

So, you're saying that brutal, oppressive, dictatorships are the only thing that works in the ME? ...

No, and I didn't say that -- on the contrary.

By the "thing that works" I guess you mean what suppresses latent anti-Americanism? I don't call that working. Hello! the dictators' suppression increased anti-Americanism.

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Perhaps that's so, but don't you find it odd that two countries we helped "liberate" were the first to stab us in the back?

First, there's Libya, who we helped free from Qaddafi, and we allowed them to oust (by inaction) Mubarak in Egypt, one of our oldest allies. ...and then all the little duckies fell in line. ....

The USA can take credit for everything that happens in the world. Equally there are things it can't prevent happening, whether good or bad. But this isn't for lack of trying.

In fact trying to trying control things in various countries in aid of supposed "American interests" is precisely what has provoked the anti-American we see today, that provoked 9-11, and that will continue until the USA adopts a radically different approach to foreign affairs. And mere acceptance, passive or active, of the overthrow of a few dictators won't be enough.

[frenchmon]

No, and I didn't say that -- on the contrary.

By the "thing that works" I guess you mean what suppresses latent anti-Americanism? I don't call that working. Hello! the dictators' suppression increased anti-Americanism.


The USA can take credit for everything that happens in the world. Equally there are things it can't prevent happening, whether good or bad. But this isn't for lack of trying.

In fact trying to trying control things in various countries in aid of supposed "American interests" is precisely what has provoked the anti-American we see today, that provoked 9-11, and that will continue until the USA adopts a radically different approach to foreign affairs. And mere acceptance, passive or active, of the overthrow of a few dictators won't be enough.

+1

[markw]

No, and I didn't say that -- on the contrary

Yeah, you did. Man up.

By the "thing that works" I guess you mean what suppresses latent anti-Americanism? I don't call that working. Hello! the dictators' suppression increased anti-Americanism

No, I mean killing anyone they don't agree with. Saddam was no friend of Iran if I recall correctly and even tried to take Kuait and was preparing to move on Saudi Arabia. Did your dementia wipe that from your memory?

The USA can take credit for everything that happens in the world.

If you're referring t our turning the tide of WW1 and WW2, casting an umbrella (and manning it with our troops) over all of Europe (and Canada) for over sixty years, rebuilding Germany, Japan and a goodly portion of the rest of the world, then I thank you for noticing it.

Equally there are things it can't prevent happening, whether good or bad. [I]But this isn't for lack of trying.

Well, like I said in my initial post, since he threw Mubarak under the bus and helped Libya oust Quadaffi to play kissy-face with the muzzies, we'll never know. Let's just say that whan it comes for his choice who to back here, he "chose unwisely". And IIRC, wasn't Canada in charge of the attack on Libya? Youse guyz got to wear big daddy's shoes and play with his big guns, just like the big boys. How did it feel?

In fact trying to trying control things in various countries in aid of supposed "American interests" is precisely what has provoked the anti-American we see today, that provoked 9-11, and that will continue until the USA adopts a radically different approach to foreign affairs. And mere acceptance, passive or active, of the overthrow of a few dictators won't be enough.

Let's be honest here. Our work has kept you, and the rest of the world, safe for over sixty years so far. ...but you gained more than the rest of the world by your proximity to us and safely cowering in our shadow. Don't try to play the all-wise-and-knowing guru when your participation in world affairs amounts essentially to a fart in a windstorm. That goes for you personally as well. Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

It's a good thing that most of your country sees the truth. They know how much they have benefited from us. Of course, very few post here.

[Feanor]

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Let's be honest here. Our work has kept you, and the rest of the world, safe for over sixty years so far. ...but you gained more than the rest of the world by your proximity to us and safely cowering in our shadow. Don't try to play the all-wise-and-knowing guru when your participation in world affairs amounts essentially to a fart in a windstorm. That goes for you personally as well. Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

It's a good thing that most of your country sees the truth. They know how much they have benefited from us. Of course, very few post here.

This is the astonishing thing that a few Americans, such as you, feel they can so handily dismiss criticism of the USA as being purely ingratitude or jealousy. That is, despite the truth that the criticisms comprise, they are nevertheless invalid on this account.

This is numb-brained, bigoted anti-intellectualism at its worst.

[frenchmon]

So, you're saying that brutal, oppressive, dictatorships are the only thing that works in the ME?

Perhaps that's so, but don't you find it odd that two countries we helped "liberate" were the first to stab us in the back?

First, there's Libya, who we helped free from Qaddafi, and we allowed them to oust (by inaction) Mubarak in Egypt, one of our oldest allies. ...and then all the little duckies fell in line.

Boy, Obama sure can pick 'em, can't he? Whose side is this schmuck on, anyway.

And, no, the e was not this hatred in 2008. I was alive and sentient then. Apparently, you were under the influence of some strong meds if you think it was this ugly.

I betcha you think Obama is a Muslim don't you?

[dingus]

.... So, we're forced to ask ourselves: "Are we better of than we were four years ago?" What do you think? ...

really? nobody is forcing me to ask that or any other question. you're just trotting out the prescribed talking point. i think that particular question only has relevance to people who want to maintain the political status quo.

[markw]

really? nobody is forcing me to ask that or any other question. you're just trotting out the prescribed talking point. i think that particular question only has relevance to people who want to maintain the political status quo.

You've got quite a provincial view of this whole situation, haven't you?

In case you haven't notice the current political status quo, both domestic and foreign, is heading straight down at 32 fps squared. ...unless, of course you're one of the beneficiaries of the ill-fated stimulus monies.

[dingus]

You've got quite a provincial view of this whole situation, haven't you?

In case you haven't notice the current political status quo, both domestic and foreign, is heading straight down at 32 fps squared. ...unless, of course you're one of the beneficiaries of the ill-fated stimulus monies.

you Faux News much?

that political status quo isnt going to change much, if at all, regardless of who wins the white house.