The first pair of speakers I owned were some old 12" 3ways. I don't recall them ever having a name on the cabinet anywhere. My dad used them in the garage then I adopted them. I powered them with a tiny little bookshelf unit and stepped the speaker outputs down (they were only like 8watt outputs) and then used two realistic PA-25's to run them. Souned horrible but it got way too loud. I then got a pair of Optimus LX-10's for $65 on clearence when I worked for radio shack, I still run them occasionally after a few crossover mods and stuff they don't sound too bad. I'm just waiting for my boss to finish the recone on the 15's for my JBL 4430 that were just recently purchased.