New State of the Art BG Planar Speakers- Coming Soon

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Yes but why are the specs not listed? And I have never heard a Maggie smeared or distorted. That's a load of crap! While I own Maggies, they are not the end all in speakers but saying that they are smeared is BS.

Blackraven, what direct comparisons have you made between speakers that you can make a definitive statement such as this? You have got to compare any two(three or four speakers) in real time with identical material to make such a claim. You cannot make comparative statements in a vacuum, and you certainly don't have the auditory memory to make a comparison on a different day, or in a different room.

I have heard Maggies distort. Just try and play 30-40hz signals at anywhere near realistic levels, and the distortion of the Maggies really shows itself audibly. A friend of mine has the 20.7, and they are not the most dynamic speaker, nor do they have the weight and power in the bass that other speakers have in their price category. It also does not have the imaging focus of a mini-monitor which tells me there is some smearing in the time domain somewhere. It is also(like most dipoles) not exactly true to the source - as a lot of the room "sound" is carried with the direct sound. But from the midrange up, not many speakers have the clarity factor Maggies have.

Speakers that have to be placed 6 feet from the rear wall will be difficult to accommodate for most people.

This may not be such a big problem for those that can afford to own them. People usually have the room to accommodate the speakers they choose. If they don't, the speaker won't sound very good in their rooms.

[melgross]

Blackraven, what direct comparisons have you made between speakers that you can make a definitive statement such as this? You have got to compare any two(three or four speakers) in real time with identical material to make such a claim. You cannot make comparative statements in a vacuum, and you certainly don't have the auditory memory to make a comparison on a different day, or in a different room.

I have heard Maggies distort. Just try and play 30-40hz signals at anywhere near realistic levels, and the distortion of the Maggies really shows itself audibly. A friend of mine has the 20.7, and they are not the most dynamic speaker, nor do they have the weight and power in the bass that other speakers have in their price category. It also does not have the imaging focus of a mini-monitor which tells me there is some smearing in the time domain somewhere. It is also(like most dipoles) not exactly true to the source - as a lot of the room "sound" is carried with the direct sound. But from the midrange up, not many speakers have the clarity factor Maggies have.



This may not be such a big problem for those that can afford to own them. People usually have the room to accommodate the speakers they choose. If they don't, the speaker won't sound very good in their rooms.

I agree. I really don't want to sound self serving, but Maggies don't have wonderful bass. Like a lot of spreakers, they can go down pretty far, but with almost no output. The problem is a known one, and one reason the Apogee's died out. Using ribbons or electrostatics for bass is really difficult as there is almost no x-max. So delivering a lot of output at low frequencies can be out of the question altogether, unless the surface area is vast. Even the Soundlabs I was considering, while they are rated by Soundlab to go to 25Hz, have no dynamics there, or an octave above.

The nature of dipoles just magnifies that problem. A 24" wide panel begins to roll off at about 135Hz, and there's little that can be done about it. Even the big Soundlabs roll off at about 90Hz, and they used to offer side panels that lowered that to about 70Hz, but don't offer them right now.

Then, the lack of taper gives that comb effect, which can give, beginning a half octave above that rolloff, bumps in the frequency curve of about +- 1 1/2db above the rolloff, and as much as +-3db below, if the panel is really too narrow. Not good!