Canton Vento 830.2

[vlastoc]

Hi vlastoc....long time no see. I posted on the Canton Forum at the other site. Man I have never heard a speaker play such beautiful music...on certain tunes my eyes water up because the sound is so good. The speakers really do get out of the way and disappear.

My Rotel amp does not do good at really low levels with the Vento's. Even though its 200 watts pushing 87d's, its enough for the Rotel to get warmer and not clear at micro levels. I did not have this problem with the Canton 403's which where 89db, but I think the Vento's just out class the Rotel. I have been thinking about a new amp....I know I am going to get a new one soon. I was really thinking about a Forte 3 amp, an old Nelson Pass designed amp, but I passed on it. I really do want a modern amp to push the Vento's so my search continues. Vincent has an amp out that list for $2400 and the first 20 watts are class A. I don't listen at really loud levels...I am pass my loud rock days, and have mellowed out, so that first 20 watts in class A is about all I will ever use....and it is what I need for the low level listening is what I need for those 2am listening sessions while wife is sleep. It will be great for the lows and highs of classical music. So I am really look hard at the Vincent SP-331MK ...dont have the money for a Nelson Pass. And don't know what his line of amps "First Watt" will be like driving 87db speakers in class A....have to talk to Poultry or E-stat about that

yup, I read your comment at that forum, I also contributed and asked you about your amplifiers ...and you answered me here.

I'm a little surprised, about your Rotel, but on the other hand I understand you, I have the same feeling from my NAD's. But anyway, your tip - Vincent seems good partner, I've read about connection with integrated Vincent 234.

You prefer tubes, me Not, I don't mind more live, 'rocky' amplifier, with good dynamics, but not without quality.

I can imagine some AUDIONET SAM V2, or some digital amplifier...or NAD M3 :-P
Btw with Cantons they Japan brands very often, like Accuphase ...sure it's about the preferences...

[frenchmon]

yup, I read your comment at that forum, I also contributed and asked you about your amplifiers ...and you answered me here.

I'm a little surprised, about your Rotel, but on the other hand I understand you, I have the same feeling from my NAD's. But anyway, your tip - Vincent seems good partner, I've read about connection with integrated Vincent 234.

You prefer tubes, me Not, I don't mind more live, 'rocky' amplifier, with good dynamics, but not without quality.

I can imagine some AUDIONET SAM V2, or some digital amplifier...or NAD M3 :-P
Btw with Cantons they Japan brands very often, like Accuphase ...sure it's about the preferences...

Its funny you should meantion Audionet. I was speaking with Canton and they use many amps in their test stations with their speakers and one brand they mentioned was the German brand Audionet! I would love to get that brand, but im afraid they are out of my range The one you speak of cost $4400 and that was a few years ago. I have not did any digging around to see if there is a dealer here in the states I cant afford it any way. Where are you located Germany?

What is it about tubes you dont like?

[vlastoc]

about tubes, sorry, wrong written, that I don't like them...I never owned tube amp, think they are expensive and also I don't prefer only mellow, smooth sound...that's just simply my felling

regarding the Audionet, now the price is not so high, I mean from second-hand and for run out models, but sure, still out of my price range...at this moment I can't buy any amp for more than 1000 €. Anyway, audionet products have a very high evaluations...at local forums or tests.
I live in small country Slovakia (not Slovenia :- )

[frenchmon]

about tubes, sorry, wrong written, that I don't like them...I never owned tube amp, think they are expensive and also I don't prefer only mellow, smooth sound...that's just simply my felling

regarding the Audionet, now the price is not so high, I mean from second-hand and for run out models, but sure, still out of my price range...at this moment I can't buy any amp for more than 1000 €. Anyway, audionet products have a very high evaluations...at local forums or tests.
I live in small country Slovakia (not Slovenia :- )

Oh ok...Dont think tubes cant rock...because I have heard tubes rock. What you need is a hybrid amp. Those will rock as much as you need. How much is 1000 € in USD? You may need tubes...you have the old tweeter in your Vento 807 DC's which had a livelier tweeter than mine. Tubes would sound good with those speakers. Your speakers where released in 2005 at $3500 a pair. You would do good to get a better amp than the NAD which retails for 749.

Slavakia....wow that a long way from me. I bet you have some good audio shops there?

[vlastoc]

that's fine, they can rock, and sounds interesting about hybrids, I might consider that. I have one experience with Classe CAP 151 and Classe CD/DVD-1 and the sound was very smooth and very mellow, I lacked the dynamic, but detailed and controlled. I thought the reason is the amplifier, but later on found the big part of that sound is CD/DVD.
So I might ask friend to lend me his amp. again or one other friend has Classe 2100 integrated, I plan to demo my ventos with this amp., then I will really see, but you are totally right, my NAD's are not that quality partners (except of NAD masters).

I reconsidered the price mentioned before, pity, I can handle only with about 800eur, what is aprox. 1000$.

We have some shops and there are more in neighbor country Checz republic, but sometimes it's quite far for me to travel and you know they always pair Denons, Onkyo or Yamahas with Cantons...

[frenchmon]

that's fine, they can rock, and sounds interesting about hybrids, I might consider that. I have one experience with Classe CAP 151 and Classe CD/DVD-1 and the sound was very smooth and very mellow, I lacked the dynamic, but detailed and controlled. I thought the reason is the amplifier, but later on found the big part of that sound is CD/DVD.
So I might ask friend to lend me his amp. again or one other friend has Classe 2100 integrated, I plan to demo my ventos with this amp., then I will really see, but you are totally right, my NAD's are not that quality partners (except of NAD masters).

I reconsidered the price mentioned before, pity, I can handle only with about 800eur, what is aprox. 1000$.

We have some shops and there are more in neighbor country Checz republic, but sometimes it's quite far for me to travel and you know they always pair Denons, Onkyo or Yamahas with Cantons...

Classe is a warm amp. But I don't think it lacks dynamic. You may want to speak to GlenB. He has Classe and likes them very much. As with all gear system matching is very important. But I would think the Vento you have would be good with Classe amps...the Classe Ca 200 which can be had now for about $1000-1500 should be a very good match for your speakers. I too looked at Classe, but decided on a hybrid amp.