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    Canton Vento 830.2

    Got my new Canton 830.2's from dealer today. I have them on the stands and just listened to Diana Krall. Right out of box they have much more bass detail and also carries more weight than my previous Canton's. The 830.2's have let me see what my system really can do. I would say about 2 hours on them towards brake in. I wont push them as they require low to slightly mid level on the volume...Break in is finished at 20 hours per Canton, but could be more. The 2M Black is truely a very special cart that I now understand was limited with the other speakers. Right out box, the speakers have a very lovely mid section with tons of detail....rich and warm sounding and a perfect match with tubes. It is truly lush in the mids. As said before bass notes are full, but not over powering. No smear in any of the bass notes no roll off and good weight, but nicely detail and very natural sounding. Now the tweeter is very special indeed. Canton took the tweeter out of their Reference line...which has the top speaker costing $35000 a pair and dropped it into the Vento line. Its that same ceramic dome tweeter technology and dome geometry of the Reference line. This tweeter is truly world class and features very extended frequency response, wide dispersion characteristics and high power handling. It’s just an incredibly smooth tweeter. No distortion or edge or pollution is heard whatsoever. And with Cantons wave guide technology, muisc just extends further in the room...a few pic minus the magnetized grills. These pictures do nothing for the beauty of the high gloss Cherry wood.


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    Wow those are beautiful. Sounds like the music they make is also beautiful. I can share your excitement when you have a new component that kicks your system up a notch or two. I think I will have to seek out a pair to audition. What is the MSRP on those beauties.
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    Sweet, frenchmon. This is a model of speaker I'd need to check out if I wanted or need to replace my Magneplanars.

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    JM thanks....They retail for $2400 They perform like they cost much more. If you find a dealer who is willing to deal you may have them for around 2grand. I can assure you these are the best speakers I have ever heard. If you find them and listen, decide to purchase and the dealer wont budge off price, I can put you in-touch with my dealer. He will deal. THey come in high gloss black, high gloss cherry, and high gloss white.

    A few years ago at Vinyl Engine I started a post asking why is it that speaker companies like Salk, ProAc, Devore, Harbeth and so many other smaller companies charge so much for their speakers when they only build their cabinet and outsource the speakers and drivers to Scanspeak, Vifa, Seas, and other companies. The obvious reason is they dont have the capital to higher engineers and build it all. I got all kinds of very good reasons why, but no one was able to give me the number one reason. It was because they are not a "Virtical company" which can give you a better product at cheaper prices while passing down the best technology for their top lines to some of the lower lines. The previous tweeter technology in the Vento was good, but when they took some of the technology from the Reference line and put it into the Vento line, it pushed the Vento to another level. Canton makes everything in that speaker sept grow the trees for the boxes. But they do everything else. If this same speaker with the way if sounds was from one of the above speaker companies, it would run about 4-5K. I think Joseph Audio has a speaker about the same size with Seas drives and maybe crossovers and it cost about 8K and I am willing to bet its not as safisticated as the new Vento 830.2's. I've contacted RGA to see if he can get any thing from the Vento line with the new tweeter to see if he could review it, but he never responded back too me. I would be interested in his opinion.

    Me and Peabody was at the shoot out with the new Monitor Audio GX 100 and the 820.2's the little brother to the 830.2's and they just out classed the bigger GX 100's in every way, and the GX 100 is a good speaker. JM I hope you can find a pair and take a listen, I would be interested in your thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    Sweet, frenchmon. This is a model of speaker I'd need to check out if I wanted or need to replace my Magneplanars.
    Thanks Feanor....if you do find some Vento's, I think you will be in for a surprise. My dealer drove them with some Classical from the Reference Recordings label...vinly and CD's and it was like they where in the room. The speakers with the high gloss does not take attention from the music...they really draw you in by the way they let you hear every part of the music perfectly....the physicality of the speakers do disappear.
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    Nice pickup frenchmon...now update your equipment list pronto! :-)

    "Canton 400 STAND MONITORS" ===> Canton Canton Vento 830.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHills44060 View Post
    Nice pickup frenchmon...now update your equipment list pronto! :-)

    "Canton 400 STAND MONITORS" ===> Canton Canton Vento 830.2
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    I have a question about the shootout with the Monitor Audio's. I have made peace with the RS6's and I am ready to move on. Now to my question the MA's seem to be more about the dynamics of the music and the OML1's are more about flow so would you say the Canton Vento's are more about the flow?

    The dynamics were unrelenting with the RS6's and I think that is why I kept taking a break. The RS6's did not excell when the music was funky. Oh and the peaky tweeter was not fun long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMichael View Post
    I have a question about the shootout with the Monitor Audio's. I have made peace with the RS6's and I am ready to move on. Now to my question the MA's seem to be more about the dynamics of the music and the OML1's are more about flow so would you say the Canton Vento's are more about the flow?

    The dynamics were unrelenting with the RS6's and I think that is why I kept taking a break. The RS6's did not excell when the music was funky. Oh and the peaky tweeter was not fun long term.
    JM...when I first listened to the MA GX 100, me , Peabody and the dealer thought the ribbon tweeter was very good. The overal presentation we thought was good. He was driving them with the new Onkyo reference seperates. We thought the bass was really strong and balanced with the Ribon tweeters. The midsection presentation was the weekest link but it was still good. So I left there that night thinking the GX 100's where a killer speaker offered at $1700. So after the dealer got the Canton 820.2 in and had a few hours on them, he sent emails too Peabody and I that these Cantons where unbelievable. So we treked on over to his house, and where just simply blown away. Then we put the GX 100 back on the stands and where instantly surprised. The Cantons in its performance had exposed the flaws of the bigger more expensive GX 100's that we missed before when we listened to them before the shoot out. (The 820.2's retails for $13 or 15 hundred I forget which) In my opinion It showed the GX 100's to be agressivly in your face, bloated and smeared bass lines, as well as mids recessed and not as rich and warm, with the ribbon tweeter being bight and agressive! The ribbon simply could not do what the ceramic did, nor did it present the rich warmth of the cantons presentation. I dont know why it took the Cantons for us to hear the flaws of the Monitors. We then took the Cantons to his big system with the Levinson amps and preamp and the cantons where just better.

    The Monitors where about the Dynamic and it never seemed to disappear. You where always listening to the speakers. But check this out....the Cantons are very dynamic, but have flow with great rhythm and pace while being rich and warm in the core of the music not only on the edges of bass and cymbals. I am convinced its the smoothness and clarity of the ceramic tweeter Canton has developed. As I said before, this same tweeter was in their 35k Reference speaker.

    Reference 1.2 DC | CANTON Reference

    I have written Canton in emails about this tweeter in the Vento line. I was told that once they trickled the tweeter down to the Vento line, they had to also tweak and update the crossovers and woofers in the Vento line to accommodate the ceramic tweeter. He went on to say its a world class tweeter design.

    JM what drew me to Canton years ago was the midsection having the ability to be very lush and disperse further into the room than any other speaker I had ever heard. I do not know how Canton does it, but I have not heard any other speaker do it like that. I've went to the local audio shops and listen to Velore, Totem, Kudo, Harbeth and a host of them, and I use the Canton rich mids and dispersion as a reference point and no one has it. You would have to take an extensive listen to them to understand what I am saying. I hope I've answered your question....if not perhaps I am not understanding it, and will give it more thought.
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    Will you be getting new stands as well or are your current Sanus stands up to par with the Vento's? I'm not familiar with how close in size and dimension they are to your previous Canton's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHills44060 View Post
    Will you be getting new stands as well or are your current Sanus stands up to par with the Vento's? I'm not familiar with how close in size and dimension they are to your previous Canton's.
    For some reason I was thinking of the Canton Stands as well...
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    Very nice speakers Frenchie. I am sure that they sound great with that nice Vincent gear of yours.

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    Canton was one of my finalists in my speaker hunt and performed well with tube amplifiers. The Audio Note AX Two ended up winning from my list of finalists.

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    Nice addition to your system. You've really been adding some equipment to your system lately. I need to find a Canton dealer near me so I can give them a listen. I just spent the last two weeks cruisng the Med and the closest thing I could find to a HiFi shop were a Bang and Olufsen shop in Barcelona and one in Rome.
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    Raven...thanks. Yes they sound really good with tubes. I put the first 2 hours on SS gear at my dealers house, then bought them home and noticed the nice tube warmth right away. They respond to electronics greatly.

    Jack....sounds like you had a nice vacation! Thanks for the propers. Im sure with all the audio shops in carolina, you will not have a problem finding some new Vento's or Reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    Raven...thanks. Yes they sound really good with tubes. I put the first 2 hours on SS gear at my dealers house, then bought them home and noticed the nice tube warmth right away. They respond to electronics greatly.

    Jack....sounds like you had a nice vacation! Thanks for the propers. Im sure with all the audio shops in carolina, you will not have a problem finding some new Vento's or Reference.
    Sorry for the confusion, but I'm in Wilmington, Delaware. It was a nice vacation. Spain, France, Italy (Pisa), Italy (Rome), Italy (Naples), Greece (Mykonos), Turkey (Istanbul), Turkey (Ephesus), Greece (Crete), and Italy (Venice). But you must have to know where the HiFi shops are located, and all those stops in Italy and we couldn't find a decent pizza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington View Post
    Sorry for the confusion, but I'm in Wilmington, Delaware. It was a nice vacation. Spain, France, Italy (Pisa), Italy (Rome), Italy (Naples), Greece (Mykonos), Turkey (Istanbul), Turkey (Ephesus), Greece (Crete), and Italy (Venice). But you must have to know where the HiFi shops are located, and all those stops in Italy and we couldn't find a decent pizza.
    lol! My bad, I knew that!

    Man, I know you have a ball! No decent pizza? Now thats a shame. I would suspect they would be all over the place.
    You might be able to contact Canton US distributor and im sure they can direct you to the nearest one.
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    Been listening now for about two hours. The Vento's are a very well balanced presentation and does every thing really good, but I think it's ability in the core of the music is Exceptional. Right where the lower high frequencies meet the upper lower frequencies there is a certain rhythm and drive weather it's the bass notes and piano together or bass notes and drums or just some one singing back ground, you hear the small detail and pace that is normally over looked. I think this is what draws and pulls me into the music so much and holds my attention. Every thing is coming into it own, and clarity is excellent. The bass notes surprised me a bit. While this stand mount has excellent bass and deep bass, it's not like a Dynaudio bass note from one of its small boxes that has total thunderous punch on every note....this bass is lighter, more natural. Not saying the Dyns are not natural sounding , but that the 830.2 has that natural, sound but not as thunderous, but still can go pretty low. When the music calls for me to feel a low note, I can feel it from my chair in the middle of my chest...and it has happened with acoustic and electric bass. One characteristic of good gear in my opinion is when it's clear with no added pollution of its own....meaning no break up or distortion of its own and certainly no premature roll off but good decay.This tweeter is special. I see why audiophiles look for the best recorded music and the best labels weather CD, SACD, or Vinyl. Good gear if it's suppose to be transparent in its interpretation will show a bad recording. While this tweeter will hide hiss on vinyl, it will expose badly recorded and mastered CD's and VINYL. Well I've reached the end of my listening session...have to go off and be a dad and husband now.
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    "... I started a post asking why is it that speaker companies like Salk, ProAc, Devore, Harbeth and so many other smaller companies charge so much for their speakers when they only build their cabinet and outsource the speakers and drivers to Scanspeak, Vifa, Seas, and other companies. The obvious reason is they dont have the capital to higher engineers and build it all. I got all kinds of very good reasons why, but no one was able to give me the number one reason. It was because they are not a "Virtical company" which can give you a better product at cheaper prices while passing down the best technology for their top lines to some of the lower lines

    Devil's advocate

    While this is true to some degree the alternate argument to this is that these companies are buying drivers from some of the best driver specialists in the world. There is no reason to reinvent the wheel when companies like SEAS, Scanspeak, Vifa, etc are making the best drivers available.

    These companies like the brands you list have to pay for the drivers which is an increased cost; however, they also don't have to pay the massive costs for the machines to build the drivers or the employee cost to have the drivers physical built. Instead these makers can spend their time designing loudspeakers and not drivers that again are already likely available by driver maker specialists.

    The argument that in house drivers are better is a specious one. If they were making the best drivers in the world all other speaker manufacturers would beat down their doors to offer to buy them.

    In house driver manufacturer on the one hand does mean more control but that to me is marketing blather and causes the end user potential problem. Why?

    1) you make the driver and you can now charge the customer any sum you want - whether the driver is worth it or not.

    2) many of these companies change models every 2-5 years. They may now re-tool for a new tweeter or woofer. If they do they won't make the old ones. If that happens and your speaker breaks lot's of luck getting a replacement.

    3) in house doesn't allow for price comparison. 3 speaker makers all use the same woofer and tweeters you can ask why one speaker costs 4 times what the other costs. In house the tweeter may cost $3 to make but they can charge $400 because there is no "competitor" who uses the same drivers.


    The notion of trickle down technology is also pure marketing. B&W is a prime example with their tube tapering metal dome tweeter on top technology. It's all very impressive.

    They come out with a CDM 1SE speaker with a metal tweeter on top. It has ringing break-up behavior and doesn't integrate with the stiff Kevlar midwoofer. It sounds worse than the AN AX Two for half the price using Vifa drivers (paper and silk).

    So B&W trickles down their better tweeter design in the new CDM 1NT - which is a marginal upgrade but still has the same problems - price goes up and the AX Two still sounds better.

    B&W trickles down more of the 800 series into the new 705 which is better again but still has treble issues and still doesn't integrate properly and still has problems with the Kevlar woofer. Price goes up and it still sounds worse than the AX Two. It looks a lot better I'll give them that. I am using B&W as the example because the CDM 1SE and NT were speakers I planned on buying back in the day. I was a week away from purchasing them except I got laid off. Bad to get laid off but not bad to avoid buying those speakers. (B&W is a prime example of vertical integration and make their own drivers etc etc.)

    The B&W tweeter creates it's own problems that a cheap ass AX Two Vifa tweeter doesn't create. The Vifa won't have the power or extension but it also has none of the nasty issues B&W's tweeters possess.

    B&W sells them and then has the upgrade coming in the next line or the trickled down version. They even admit that the model up reduces ringing of their lower model. It's perpetual built in upgradeitus. The initial wow factor treble is wearing and you want the model up. The interesting thing is when B&W was interested in sound reproduction instead of the pure marketing of style over substance that they're into now they used to build good sounding speakers (Matrix and DM series). Indeed, I picked up a Hong Kong English newspaper the other day about home decorating and what do I see - a full page advert for B&W 800 speakers. It reminded me of seeing Bose and Bang and Olluffson in such magazines. Credit B&W for following some of the most profitable companies and realizing that Harbeth, ATC, Audio Note, and Devore Orangutan looking speakers will not sell in numbers no matter how good they sound. People want sexy curves, high gloss finishes, and whatever space age mumbo jumbo you can possibly throw at them.

    Devil's advocate commentary over.

    Now having made the above point I do not have any issue with either approach - I really don't care about whether they make the drivers or not. Some speakers I like do some speakers I like don't. Same with amps - some amps are OEM from other companies but it doesn't make it worse or better.

    Speakers IME are more about the overall design than the specific drivers. 1-2 less expensive drivers with spot on cohesiveness beats 5 ultra pricey drivers that are all over the place even if each driver in the 5 way costs more than entire first speaker costs in total.

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    A "Devils advocate" is some one who takes a position they don't necessarily agree with for the sake of argument. So why argue? I sure dont want too.

    Don't make B&W the model or standard for all vertical speaker companies. You would be foolish to do so.

    Larger speaker companies like Canton and B&W, Paradigm, Revel, Monitor Audio, Dynaudio and now Dali after years of out sourcing their woofers, tweeters and drivers, but now are Vertical integrated, and a few others have the resources, drive and motivation as well as the will to do what they do. So its no biggie to them to switch out the equipment and tools for the what they want to do in a design or hire in a engineer to make their designs work. Does that make a Vertical company better than one who hires out parts? Yes and no. But I wont argue the pro's and cons here. I dont really want too argue.

    But having said that, there is one advantage of a Vertical company like Canton that I know of...you wont find their parts in Parts Express. Is that a bad thing? Maybe not, but I just cant help wondering if that popular speaker that cost 5k a pair sounds close too or almost like another popular speaker that cost $500. I have read many accounts on different forums where the person stated his popular British speaker needed a new woofer. He takes the old one out, looks at it and the name of the speaker company is on the woofer, but the company who MADE the speaker is also stamped on the speaker. One such guy even called his dealer after the woofer stopped working and the dealer told him that if he order that woofer from the British company who purchased the drives for their product it would cost $600, but he would also be able to get that same woofer from Madisound for $70. He said its the exact same woofer with only one number in the model number changed. That was a good thing for the consumer who own the broken speaker....but I wonder about stuff like that.

    There is a guy here in St. Louis who makes very nice speakers and sells them all over the States. Check his site out.

    Vapor : Exquisite Audio Reproduction

    I asked him one day if he uses top shelf from parts express or any other company that sells parts...or if has them design to his specs by Scanspeak or RAAL or who ever he buys from. He said it depends but most times he just buys from Parts Express.

    So the moral of my little true accounts is while speaking for Canton and not B&W or any other company, is with a Vertical Integrated Company like Canton, you get a guarantee exclusivity. Once you get to know their sound, you wont hear it any place else in any body else speakers other than Canton... Is that a bad thing or good thing? Its all in the eye and heart of the believer...or should I say the audiophile....too each his own.


    And speaking of the the Vertical Integrted Dynaudio, who at one time use to sell drivers at Parts Express and a few other parts companies, but now don't, I wonder what their motivation was to stop?.....hmmmm.
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    Rga....

    ....I wrote Canton about the Vento before purchase and this is part of the reply I recieved from Canton.....So you telling me this is not true and is only marketing BS?

    ......The Vento series was recently upgraded and carries the “.2” designator. This means that Canton kept the form factor the same but upgraded drivers and crossover technology. In the case of the new Vento, the most important change (and it’s very significant) was the addition of the ceramic dome tweeter technology and dome geometry from our Reference series. This tweeter is truly world class and features very extended frequency response, wide dispersion characteristics and high power handling. It’s just an incredibly smooth tweeter. The woofers, midrange and crossovers were also changed slightly to reflect the overall balance – Canton designs each individual speaker as a system – so the driver parameters changed but the materials remained the same. ....
    Also...it would be nice if you contacted them to see if you could get the Vento series in your room to review....My contact was Paul Madsen
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    Mmm...high gloss brilliance. Sounds like the new Ventos are a great match for your gear. You say you've also upgraded to the Ortofon 2M Black? What were you using before?
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    I am certainly not saying it is true for all vertical companies or making or even implying anything negative about Canton - I liked the speaker I heard from them.

    But I am weary of the generalizations. Largely because IMO Audio Note speakers sound better than "B&W, Paradigm, Revel, Monitor Audio, Dynaudio and Dali" that you listed. I also like Harbeth and Devore more than anything I've heard from any of these as well.

    You can't go and buy an AN E or J woofer from SEAS. SEAS makes the woofer for Audio Note per Audio Note's design instructions only for Audio Note. When the woofer is sent to Audio Note they test them - all of them 100% of them The ones that are not quite to AN's highest standard are sold to the Kits division. These would be the ones that are not matched to with 0.2db. The Kits version get the woofers that are not to that standard but no worse than 0.6db. Below that they are sent back to SEAS. .6db is still excellent - Most of the competition is well over 1db off. The B&W N801 in house design are off by 2.9db.

    And I don't think we can take B&W out of the discussion or call it foolish to do so as an example because they are very widely viewed as the best "high end" speaker maker on the market. They're certainly the biggest selling "audiophile" speaker maker and they get rave reviews constantly in the press. And they're in a lot of recording studios to boot.

    I may not be a big fan of the sound but it's impressive The making of an 800 Series Diamond speaker - YouTube

    After watching that video I soooo want to like them more.

    What you said was true - Parts express noted that you could buy a kit from them for $300 and you could buy the same speaker with a name brand logo on the front for $3k. But in general that's not the norm.

    The better higher end companies are not just slapping stuff together - they have a design and they either make it themselves - like the vertical companies or they have someone else build it for them. Audio Note for example does both. They build the stuff themselves where they feel there is nothing as good on the market - transformers for example. Other high end tube amp makers buy Audio Note transformers and put their own labels on the front. Some buy their cables, caps, resisters, soldering materials etc. Peter liked the Rega 250 tonearm because the type of arm dissipated resonances that matched well with the TT1 and TT2 tables (which are Systemdek turntables with several modifications). But Rega isn't going to supply the Rega tone arm so they looked around for a replacement found none they liked and now build their own tone arm.

    It would be like saying - you can build a good amplifier unless you manufacturer your own caps, resisters, wires and circuit boards or you can't be a good CD player maker unless you design your own transport mechanism. Most all of them buy off the shelf stuff for these purposes. Most CD transports come from Sanyo, Sony, Philips and very few others.

    An example of this is the very popular Philips L1210 CD mechanism - Bryston uses it, Audio Note and Sim Audio use it. None of the players sound remotely the same - it's technically an "off the shelf" transport mechanism that does the job at a given price. The AN CD player sounds much better even though it is using the same transport mechanism. This illustrates that it is not the actual parts so much as the design and what you do with the parts that counts.

    So I am not exactly sure why is it any different with loudspeakers? Two companies can use the exact same tweeters and or woofers and get very different sonic results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmon View Post
    Been listening now for about two hours. The Vento's are a very well balanced presentation and does every thing really good, but I think it's ability in the core of the music is Exceptional. Right where the lower high frequencies meet the upper lower frequencies there is a certain rhythm and drive weather it's the bass notes and piano together or bass notes and drums or just some one singing back ground, you hear the small detail and pace that is normally over looked. I think this is what draws and pulls me into the music so much and holds my attention. Every thing is coming into it own, and clarity is excellent. The bass notes surprised me a bit. While this stand mount has excellent bass and deep bass, it's not like a Dynaudio bass note from one of its small boxes that has total thunderous punch on every note....this bass is lighter, more natural. Not saying the Dyns are not natural sounding , but that the 830.2 has that natural, sound but not as thunderous, but still can go pretty low. When the music calls for me to feel a low note, I can feel it from my chair in the middle of my chest...and it has happened with acoustic and electric bass. One characteristic of good gear in my opinion is when it's clear with no added pollution of its own....meaning no break up or distortion of its own and certainly no premature roll off but good decay.This tweeter is special. I see why audiophiles look for the best recorded music and the best labels weather CD, SACD, or Vinyl. Good gear if it's suppose to be transparent in its interpretation will show a bad recording. While this tweeter will hide hiss on vinyl, it will expose badly recorded and mastered CD's and VINYL. Well I've reached the end of my listening session...have to go off and be a dad and husband now.
    Hey Frenchie, When you and Mr Peabody went and compared the Cantons to the Revel Performa F52, did you listen to the 830.2's at that time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington View Post
    Hey Frenchie, When you and Mr Peabody went and compared the Cantons to the Revel Performa F52, did you listen to the 830.2's at that time?
    No we did not. The 830.2's where not released in the States as of yet at that time. They are still fresh in the US market. The 830 where still out and had a different tweeter and crossover configuration, but I did get a chance to hear some Vento 807 DC with the old tweeter. Like the 830.2's, They have very good bass, not as thunderous as the Dyns, but just as detailed. On the Older models the Canton had a reputation for having a little hot tweeter. So system matching was very important. I never experienced any hot-ness in the tweeter With my old Canton 403's. I ran it throug tubes and did not experience any hot-ness., and before the Tubes I had Rotel and never experienced any. With the new ceramic tweeter, I don't know that to be the case. The tweeter is able to reach high frequencies, but its not hot. Its rather laid back. Its clear and smooth as can be ....at lease to my ears and every one who has heard it. In a head too head match up of the smaller 820.2 and the Monitor Audio GX 100, the Ribbon tweeter in the GX 100 was brighter. The mids and upper frequencies are different from what Dyns does in the Contour series.You will know the timbre of a Canton speaker as soon as you hear it, especially in the mid range with the lower high frequencies.
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