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    Name your top 10 debut records of all time.

    I think we may have done this many moons ago, but perhaps a retread thread is better than noe at all. Here are mine, in no particular order;


    The Smiths - S/T
    Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
    Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
    The Shins - Oh, Inverted World
    Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan
    The Strokes - Is This It
    Television - Marquee Moon
    Elvis Costello - My Aim is True
    Big Star - #1 Record
    Marshall Crenshaw - S/T

    I'm sure I'm missing a few gems that could easily be substituted for one or more of these. So who did I miss? Springsteen's 'Greetings from Asbury Park', Bob Marley's 'Catch a Fire', The Clash - S/T, The Band - Music From Big Pink, Roxy Music - S/T, and more recently, Arcade Fire - Funeral and Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights. Yeah, they're all great records.
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    Love Dylan, but honestly don't think I've heard his debut. Definitely don't own it, nothing before Freewheelin', which is kind of his real debut for me. But anyway, some good ones on your list. So many amazing debut records to choose from, especially back in the 60s, but here's 10 or so that still have some special meaning to me nowadays, skipping any of your picks like Costello and JD which would surely be near the top of my list.

    (though to be honest, I probably shouldn't list the Pretenders and/or the Cars since I haven't played either one in years, but they do still kind of rule)...

    (and Califone is technically not a debut since it was preceded by 2 EPs, and they were basically the same band as Red Red Meat, but what a great record)

    (and Tricky came over from Massive Attack, so it's not as fresh a debut as some of the others, but wow, kinda outa nowhere for me)

    (and Eno was of course in Roxy Music, but still, another surprise attack)

    (and I think Buckner had something unreleased before Bloomed, but it's a great debut to me)

    Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets
    Duncan Browne - Give Me Take You
    Mink DeVille - Cabretta
    Pretenders – Pretenders / The Cars - The Cars
    Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
    Talking Heads - '77
    PJ Harvey - Dry
    Portishead - Dummy
    Califone - Roomsound
    The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms
    Tricky - Maxinquaye
    The Violent Femmes - The Violent Femmes
    Blasters – Blasters
    Richard Buckner - Bloomed

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    I chose the Dylan record because, well, it's Dylan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davey
    Love Dylan, but honestly don't think I've heard his debut. Definitely don't own it, nothing before Freewheelin', which is kind of his real debut for me. But anyway, some good ones on your list. So many amazing debut records to choose from, especially back in the 60s, but here's 10 or so that still have some special meaning to me nowadays, skipping any of your picks like Costello and JD which would surely be near the top of my list.

    (though to be honest, I probably shouldn't list the Pretenders and/or the Cars since I haven't played either one in years, but they do still kind of rule)...

    (and Califone is technically not a debut since it was preceded by 2 EPs, and they were basically the same band as Red Red Meat, but what a great record)

    (and Tricky came over from Massive Attack, so it's not as fresh a debut as some of the others, but wow, kinda outa nowhere for me)

    (and Eno was of course in Roxy Music, but still, another surprise attack)

    (and I think Buckner had something unreleased before Bloomed, but it's a great debut to me)

    Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets
    Duncan Browne - Give Me Take You
    Mink DeVille - Cabretta
    Pretenders – Pretenders / The Cars - The Cars
    Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
    Talking Heads - '77
    PJ Harvey - Dry
    Portishead - Dummy
    Califone - Roomsound
    The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms
    Tricky - Maxinquaye
    The Violent Femmes - The Violent Femmes
    Blasters – Blasters
    Richard Buckner - Bloomed
    It only has 2 original songs; Talkin' New York and Song to Woody, while the rest are old standards and such. I'm sure you saw 'O Brother, Where Art Thou'? Dylan played 'Man of Constant Sorrow' on his debut, along with 'Baby, Let Me Follow You Down, Gospel Plow, and House of the Risin' Sun, among others. I would submit that his second release, 'Free Wheelin' Bob Dylan' was much better, including 'Don't Think Twice, It's All Right', and 'A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall'.

    I could easily list the Feelies on my list, ditto Talking Heads and Brian Eno.
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    Guy Clark~ Old No. 1
    Josh Ritter~ Golden Age of Radio (sticklers- yeh, yeh, so there's supposed to be a self-released rekkid from 1999.)
    John Prine~ S/T
    Graham Parker~ Howlin' Wind
    Willie Nile~ S/T
    Springsteen~ Greetings From Asbury Park
    Tom Waits~ Closing Time
    The Band~ Music From Big Pink
    Pearls Before Swine~ One Nation Underground
    Decemberists~ Castaways & Cutouts
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    As most lists, it could change day to day, but off the top of my head...

    Ray LaMontagne - Trouble
    Muse - Showbiz
    The Trews - House of Ill Fame
    Amanda Marshall - s/t
    Blue Rodeo - Outskirts
    Crowded House - s/t
    Hem - Rabbit Songs
    Pain of Salvation - One Hour by the Concrete Lake
    Rose Cousins - If You Were For Me
    Snow Patrol - Final Straw

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    I can think of five :


    Meet the Beatles

    Are You Experienced ?

    Led Zeppelin

    Santana

    The Doors

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    Quote Originally Posted by tentoze
    Josh Ritter~ Golden Age of Radio (sticklers- yeh, yeh, so there's supposed to be a self-released rekkid from 1999.)
    I have it. You need?
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    I assume we're talking full lengths here only. Off the top of my head:

    Clash - s/t
    Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
    Ramones - s/t
    Pixies - Surfer Rosa
    Stone Roses - s/t
    Big Star - #1 Record
    Suicidal Tendencies - s/t
    Violent Femmes - s/t


    I'll add more later if I think of it.

    Edit: I think of Soul Rebels as Marley/Wailers' debut.
    And the world will turn to flowing pink vapor stew.

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    Surfer Rose wasn't the Pixie's first record...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    I assume we're talking full lengths here only. Off the top of my head:

    Clash - s/t
    Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
    Ramones - s/t
    Pixies - Surfer Rosa
    Stone Roses - s/t
    Big Star - #1 Record
    Suicidal Tendencies - s/t
    Violent Femmes - s/t


    I'll add more later if I think of it.

    Edit: I think of Soul Rebels as Marley/Wailers' debut.
    ...but it was their first full-length. Funny, I just heard 'Where is My Mind' on a TV show the other night. Nice call on the Stone Roses too. Not sure how I could miss that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slosh
    I have it. You need?
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    I was just browsing the net and found a 'Top 100' list...

    ...of debut albums that I thought would be fun to list. Many of those we mentioned are here, but quite a few that are not. Some raised my eyebrows for sure (Boyz 2 Men?), but many I found to be pretty good choices.

    1. U2 - Boy
    2. Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool
    3. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
    4. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
    5. Joy Division - Unkown Pleasures
    6. Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn
    7. Nirvana - Bleach
    8. Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan
    9. Metallica - Kill 'em all
    10. Arcade Fire - Funeral
    11. Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
    12. The Smiths - The Smiths
    13. Jeff Buckley - Grace
    14. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
    15. Patti Smith - Horses
    16. Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets
    17. Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley
    18. Guns 'n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction
    19. The Who - The Who Sings My Generation
    20. New Order - Movement
    21. Pavement - Slanted and Enchanted
    22. Bob Marley - Catch a Fire
    23. Kanye West - The College Dropout
    24. Bruce Springsteen - Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.
    25. The Rolling Stones - England's Newest Hitmakers
    26. Radiohead - Pablo Honey
    27. R.E.M. - Murmur
    28. Talking Heads - 77
    29. John Coltrane - Coltrane
    30. Pearl Jam - Ten
    31. Eric B. and Rakim - Paid in Full
    32. the Doors - The Doors
    33. Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced?
    34. Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die
    35. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of…
    36. Van Halen - Van Halen
    37. Buddy Holly - The Chirping Crickets
    38. The Clash - The Clash
    39. Wu Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang
    40. Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill
    41. Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks
    42. Madonna - Madonna
    43. Dr. Dre - The Chronic
    44. Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
    45. Vicente Fernandez - A Pesar De Todo
    46. A Tribe Called Quest - Peoples' Instinctive Travels & the Paths of Rhythm
    47. Nas - Illmatic
    48. Television - Marquee Moon
    49. Wire - Pink Flag
    50. Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
    51. Modern Lovers - Modern Lovers
    52. Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
    53. Coldplay - Parachutes
    54. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
    55. Norah Jones - Come Away With Me
    56. Portishead - Dummy
    57. Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
    58. The Band - Music from Big Pink
    59. The Stooges - The Stooges
    60. The Pretenders - The Pretenders
    61. Santana - Santana
    62. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Creedence Clearwater Revival
    63. Heart - Dreamboat Annie
    64. The New York Dolls - The New York Dolls
    65. The Police - Outlandos d'Amour
    66. Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
    67. Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
    68. D'Angelo - Brown Sugar
    69. Funkadelic - Funkadelic
    70. Run-DMC - Run-DMC
    71. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
    72. Postal Service - Give Up
    73. Ludacris - Incognegro
    74. Calle 13 - Calle 13
    75. Alejandro Fernandez - Alejandro Fernanadez
    76. 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin'
    77. Dwight Yoakam - Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc. Etc.
    78. Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff
    79. Mana - Falta Amor
    80. Lee Ann Womack - Lee Ann Womack
    81. Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off
    82. Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers - Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers
    83. The Strokes - Is This It?
    84. Weezer - blue album
    85. Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
    86. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes
    87. Massive Attack - Blue Lines
    88. B-52s - B-52s
    89. Can - Monster Movie
    90. Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
    91. Bjork - Debut
    92. Randy Travis - Storms of Life
    93. Morrissey - Viva Hate
    94. Lynyrd Skynyrd - Pronounced…
    95. Shins - Oh, Inverted World
    96. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
    97. Daft Punk - Homework
    98. Sade - Diamond Life
    99. Boyz II Men - Cooleyhighharmony
    100. Big Star - #1 Record
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    Hear are a few of mine. The first couple are special because they are the debut and the finale.

    1. Blind Faith --- Blind Faith
    2. Illinois Speed Press --- Illinois Speed Press

    3. Boston --- Boston
    4. CSN --- CSN
    5. October Project --- October Project
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    That's 10 but I could certainly list more that I feel are important...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Blue Rodeo - Outskirts
    Crowded House - s/t
    Oh FA, I could love a woman with your musical taste...

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    U2's Boy #1?? I mean, the album is okay, but very inconsistent if you ask me. They're as delusional as Bono is.

    But there are some on that list that I love (and forgot): Pink Flag, Never Mind the Bollocks, The Stooges, Murmur, Chirping Crickets, VU & Nico
    And the world will turn to flowing pink vapor stew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Oh FA, I could love a woman with your musical taste...
    Your Metallica and Mars Volta picks aren't so bad either. Metallica was on my original list, but I had to narrow it down and drop a few off. It didn't survive the cut.

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    That's pretty good top 100 list. Two of the top 10 (Metallica, Floyd) were on my original list but didn't make the final cut. Probably because they weren't my debut to the band. All the debut albums I picked were also the first thing that I heard by the band.

    I didn't realize that Murmur was REM's debut. I never gave it much thought actually.

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    In no particular order...

    The Clash - s/t (very first one that popped in my head, anyway)
    REM - Murmur (although I consider the EP Chronic Town to be their real debut)
    The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced (a true game-changer)
    The Doors - s/t (ditto)
    The Pretenders - s/t (still one of my top 10 discs)
    U2 - Boy (no, really)
    Arcade Fire - Funeral (looking forward to seeing them in a couple weeks)
    Elvis Costello - My Aim is True (I used to be disgusted...)
    The Police - Outlandos d'Amour (easy to forget how fresh this sounded back then)
    Led Zeppelin - s/t (not really original, but hard to ignore)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    Your Metallica and Mars Volta picks aren't so bad either. Metallica was on my original list, but I had to narrow it down and drop a few off. It didn't survive the cut.
    Yes, I am a HUGE Crowded House fan. Infact, I also love Split Enz and own all of their albums on original vinyl.

    I take it you don't enjoy hip hop. That top 100 list included Paid in Full, I would agree with that for sure. It's tough to pick on a list like this. I tried to include all factors such as the bands discography, popular relevance and of course, personal relevance.

    FA I suspect you aren't a funk/soul/ RB fan either. P-Funk was VERY experimental and progressive back in the day.

    The Mars Volta's debut really impacted me as a being a great album and renewed my faith in rock. I also believe it to be their best. They shed Rubin and the result was less than pleasing IMO.

    Anyhow, great topic.

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    Hmm....

    Okay, I'll play.

    1. Parliment - "Mothership Connection". Funk was never the same again.

    2. The Last Poets - "The Last Poets". The spoken word was never so powerfull.

    3. Gil Scott Heron - "Small Talk at 125th and Lennox" - When rappin' meant you had something to say.

    4. Marvin Gaye - "What's Going On" - The first album by Marvin FOR Marvin as opposed to Berry Gordy. It was truly his coming out party.

    5. Laura Nyro - "First Songs/More Than a New Discovery" - One of my favorite singer songwrite finds her voice in 1967, singing songs she wrote in her teens.

    6. Mandrill - "Mandrill" - And afro-cuban, Rock/funk was never the same again.

    7. Bob Marley - "Catch a Fire" - Not the first reggae band, nor the last.. but when you define a genre for good or for ill.

    8. The Beatles - "Meet the Beatles" - Well their place cannot be denied.

    9. Lauren Hill - "The Miseducation of Lauren Hill" - My god what an album, I was left, speechless.

    10. Public Enemy - "Yo Bum Rush the Show" - So the kids have something to say after all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppachubby
    Yes, I am a HUGE Crowded House fan. Infact, I also love Split Enz and own all of their albums on original vinyl.

    I take it you don't enjoy hip hop. That top 100 list included Paid in Full, I would agree with that for sure. It's tough to pick on a list like this. I tried to include all factors such as the bands discography, popular relevance and of course, personal relevance.

    FA I suspect you aren't a funk/soul/ RB fan either. P-Funk was VERY experimental and progressive back in the day.

    The Mars Volta's debut really impacted me as a being a great album and renewed my faith in rock. I also believe it to be their best. They shed Rubin and the result was less than pleasing IMO.

    Anyhow, great topic.
    You're right, hip hop/funk/soul/R&B just aren't my cuppa tea for the most part.

    I agree with your assessment of Mars Volta. I really liked that first disk, but nothing that I've heard since has been all that enjoyable to me. I have their second, and possibly third, disk at home. I should probably sell them. I'll never listen to them again. I still pull the debut out on occasion however.

    Have you heard the new Crowded House disk, Intriguer? I've been hearing mixed reviews. I'm also a huge fan, but their last one was a big disappointment for me...especially since it took them so long to release it. I'm not jumping to buy the new one yet.

    But we've gone off-topic...So what? This is the most active thread here in ages. Great topic...great discussion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverAutumn
    As most lists, it could change day to day, but off the top of my head...

    Crowded House - s/t
    Some very good songs, but I never thought that much of it as a record. The next two completely overshadowed it in my mind as well, so I guess it kind of gets lost to me. Split Enz "Mental Notes" debut was great though, one of the best things they ever did until the near perfection of "Time and Tide", though those two phases of their music were quite different.

    But speaking of that, I forgot to list one of my favorite debuts of the 2000s, Augie March "Sunset Studies". Beautiful record, has it all. Great songwriting, words that flow past like good poetry, always interesting music, perfect production, no damage from the loudness war that wrecked the sound of most CDs of this era even though it is a Sony product, and even nice cover art. Yea, listening to it again right now, and this is good, so good I could almost have written this blog myself (some other big favorites on there too)... http://wirelesscranium.blogspot.com/.../best-of-2000s
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    Man, Fleet Foxes in the top 100? I can think of 20 others I'd put there ahead of those dudes.

    I agree that Hendrix should be there...much higher, same with Santana

    Nirvana Bleach was OK, but Nevermind blows it out of the water. But whaddiya gonna do, when you worship at the alter of self-tortured rockstars who couldn't handle life and you want one of the recent ones in your top10? you reach...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3-LockBox
    Nirvana Bleach was OK, but Nevermind blows it out of the water.
    Perhaps, but Nevermind wasn't their debut...was it?


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    Just for the "record", Birth Of The Cool was not a debut.

    My top debuts
    Chicago Transit Authority
    Santana
    Christopher Cross
    Sade Diamond Life
    James Taylor Sweet Baby James
    Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
    John Mayer Room For Squares

    That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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