Quote Originally Posted by bturk667
Evidently you feel it is perfectly acceptable for Bush to act unilaterally, I do not
Do you have the same opinion of France and other countries acting (unilaterally) in Liberia and other places around the globe?

Did you have the same opinion of Clinton acting (unilaterally) in Bosnia?

Do you have the same opinion about the 2-5 billion of our tax money Clinton spent (unilaterally) to "stabilize" Haiti in his administration? BTW, lotta good that did... we could'a given it to the people directly instead of down the rathole.


Quote Originally Posted by bturk667
I never said, or set a scheme, to go easy on Saddam. If I had my way Bush the elder would have taken him out during Desert Storm! Why didn't he, oh yeah the U.N.
Then you ADMIT that following that UN-type approach to Iraq was a failure? Don't you learn anything? The UN is one of the most corrupt bodies in history. Except for an occasional food, humanitarian, or emergency relief mission, they are a joke. They are little more than a "hate America" club by all the worlds third-world corrupt-totalitarian banana-republics.


Quote Originally Posted by bturk667
Bush so his cowardice by running into the National Guard
Funny, I remember Clinton lying (his "loathing the military" letter) to avoid the military, yet you didn't protest when HE ordered troops (unilaterally) into Bosnia or other hot spots. Funny, I remember John Kerry saying that if he'd been a year or 2 older, and seen the war (in 68) as the mess it had become by then, he would probably NOT have joined as he did earlier... he would, in fact, probably done what Bush did in 68... avoid the war. So Bush is smarter than you give him credit for... he acted with the same mixed feelings & questions about the war that Kerry did after being there in the early going. But don't confuse the issue by saying Bush didn't risk his life by becoming a fighter pilot. You have no clue about how difficult & dangerous that is. What Clinton did...vs what Bush did, in regard to Vietnam, are quite different.


Quote Originally Posted by bturk667
Lastly, you say the world is a safer place, BULL$H!TT.
How many people, in the months following 9-11, expected ANOTHER major attack against the US sometime in the next year or 2? 90%? ...95%? ...100%?

Do you think it's co-incidence that Al Quaida has been on the run and in disarray from how it operated prior to 9-11? Do you think it's co-incidence that Pakistan has gotten those hard-core Islamic extremists out of it's intelligence system, and is now helping us target those hard-to-access areas in the Hindu Kush? You think that the fact terrorists are entering Iraq (& being killed there), instead of the U.S. is a BAD thing for us?

You need to read Rumsfeld's detailed written thoughts about how complex, long, and difficult this war will be. It's quite chilling, and lucid. The media tries to make it like a quick & simple electronic game. It's not.