Quote Originally Posted by markw
Seems you don't seem to think what they did desreved severe punishment. What would you suggest? Slapping their wrists?

Boy for a guy from Germany who lives in England you sure seem to have a lot of anger against the US judicial system.

Then again, you railed against the state of Texas killing your buddy who shot a gay in the back of the head while his wrists were tied and he was kneeling down facing away from him.

I guess to you both these acts were just nice guys having fun.
Mark, are you bored or looking for some agro.?
If you would have read my post accurately and not just jump in feet first with your US victim attitude you will find that I have not mentioned the US. You brought that in, not me.
I stated that if you put a teenager for 5 years in a prison you will not like the end product.
As for the Texas and Richard case, your statement is wrong, and I will just not get into it again. Water under the bridge and such like.
Do I have the answers you asked. Well prison doesn't seem to work, otherwise we wouldn't need to build more and more of the things.And spent less and less on Schools and education. And that goes for the UK aswell. Maybe asking the boys why they did that instead of something productive. That will give an answer.
That begs the question "Are people born evil or made that way"?
We as a society have to ask ourselves why people do such pointless acts like throwing stones at cars. But I guess it is a lot easier to just lock people up. Out of sight out of mind. I have no idea where this will all end or how many more people will be incarcerated, guilty or inocent, (same in the UK before you get all hot and bothered again).
I am sure that many people will never find themselves in a position to be break the law, but if by circumstance you find yourself in the crosshairs of the Justice machinery and lack sufficent funds, God help you.

Peace

Bernd