Quote Originally Posted by SRO
Thanks to everyone who responded ......... some honesty in politics. I know we are talking politicians, but do we not deserve it?
SRO,

1st please accept my apology if I came across a bit harsh, I get worked up and occasionally overreact.

I think that McCain would have a big surprise in store for his moderate supporters if elected!

The reason we went into Iraq everybody knows.

And the inspections were a joke.

Regardless, we are there, premature withdrawal would be a disaster! Kerry has got to know this, he isn't stupid, I'm sure, therefore, he's lieing. How can you plan what OTHER people are going to do?

We screw the Iraqis again, no Arab (and most of the rest of the world) will trust us for DECADES.

We stay strong, we will have friends, and be more respected by our enemies - they'll know that they just can't wait us out (what Saddam was sure of, and what the mullahs are telling their insurgents now), because we will have proved it.

And the fact that we're killing terrorists and sapping their resources is true. Ditto for having a base of operations, and an ally.

Because of this, the Admin is trying to explain to us why we are still there, and why we should stay. They know it is important, and are worried that we WILL tire and leave. But there is SO MUCH that can't be said openly, for worldwide political reasons. I've found a great deal of info in the back pages of the Sunday paper, under the guise of background briefings. They're telling us, we're not paying attention.

Kerry is VERY liberal, however, different rating groups will have different guidelines. Each group will use what best suits them, of course.

Take the economy. Worst job loss since the depression. Also, great gains in productivity: 17% since Bush came to power, more than in Clintons' entire two terms. So, same issue, different take.

BTW, since increased productivity is the only justifiable reason for sustainable increases in wages/earnings, I believe whoever wins will end up looking very good a coupla years or less down the road.

Honesty in politics - what a concept!



Are you under a barrage of political commercials? Those not in swing states have no idea how bitter this election is.

And they all suck. Hours of ads a day, not one iota of good info, equally true for both sides. Everyone complains, but many of our arguments are the same here (think of Moore), they must work or they wouldn't use them. We have met the enemy, and it is us!

I would argue that weare getting EXACTLY what we deserve.

That's nothing compared to the onslaught of lawsuits that will fly IMMEDIATELY after the results come out. I believe this undermines our system, but everyone will say "But it's not fair!" "Our guy actually won!" and perpetuate it. I think of the flawed Nixon (but man could we use his advice foreign policy wise right now!). Even he had enough class to leave the '60 election be, even though they had solid evidence of "irregularities" lol in Chicago (King Daley, cheat? Never!) and Texas, and that race was close enough for it to matter.

So I say to the Dems, (only partially tongue in cheek): At least be as classy and honorable as Nixon!

Heck the GOP probably's going to follow suit this cycle. We're all becoming weak-kneed whiners.

And how about the threat of car-bomb type attacks on polling places? We're gonna have SWAT patrols out in most commmunities here in Ohio, with police at each station. Ahh, the sweet smell of freedom. No wonder I like our actions in the Middle East.

Pete

BTW, I see that Ohio might become a lawsuit state, it's VERY close here and many of us still use butterfly ballots (I like them better than the electric machines, they are difficult to "fix"). I realise that some might not be able to work these things, but am not certain those folks matter all that much . Maybe I'll accidently vote for Nader. Oops, can't do that, the Dems had him thrown off the ballot!

Where's Buchanan?