Toshiba Launches XDE DVD

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Please guys, lets stay on topic and no name calling

Toshiba claims the intent was to give DVD a sharper clearer picture on large screen TV's. I have to admit though if one had to pay the money for a 1080p to reap full benefit of this player you might as well go BR and get the full benefit of 1080p.

That is true. But you also have to realize that BR catalog is not huge as of now, so one is pretty much limited to newer releases. But you can pretty much get any movies you want on DVD. And as you said, most stored are pretty much giving them away. So there is still some life left in DVD market via bargain bins.

It would seem simple enough economics that IF a corporation lost 950 million dollars and wanted to stay in business they would not knowingly put a product on the market that would loose more money. So maybe you can break it down for me how continuous loss leads to profit.

I think that is a fair question. Losing money on HD-DVD by Toshiba is understandable due to it competition with Sony as it was trying to make a foothold, but why lose money with this DVD player since DVD is already established medium.

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Please guys, lets stay on topic and no name calling

Wheres the fun in that?

That is true. But you also have to realize that BR catalog is not huge as of now, so one is pretty much limited to newer releases. But you can pretty much get any movies you want on DVD. And as you said, most stored are pretty much giving them away. So there is still some life left in DVD market via bargain bins.

If you're a huge cheapskate.
I have seen quite a few blu movies on my player, they rent at Blockbuster, and there are dozens at various outlets.
I can understand why the companies are focusing on upscale titles, but its a mistake, I SAW dozens of titles at WALMART while picking up
some cheap drinks, you can only watch so many movies, if you concentrate on building your collection you never will run outta stuff to buy, Fifth element and terminator II were fourteen bucks, not five but the quality jump is huge.
There is no need to worry about making your DVD collection obsolete,
quite the contrary, I have watched several that I see no reason to replace, because the standard version looks so good on my player, especialy "high bit" discs

I think that is a fair question. Losing money on HD-DVD by Toshiba is understandable due to it competition with Sony as it was trying to make a foothold, but why lose money with this DVD player since DVD is already established medium.

They are not losing money.
There is a lot more that goes into a player besides the video proc.
And have you seen the ads? clearly shooting for a "younger" market,
they arent saying it but intimating that this player is "just as good" as
a Blu disc player.
ALSO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND that sometimes its not about the money.
HD on disc for Tosh was DOA almost from the start, and everybody knew it. Dont underestimate the power of being pissed off.
They might lose a few hundred mill, chump change really.
Still I think its a mistake. THEY COULD JOIN FORCES WITH their old foes and put out cheaper players, but since when has common sense ever been a major factor in corporate descision?
In the eighties instead of going with an established system (laserdisc)
RCA went with CED videodisc, and lost five hundred million, about a billion in todays dollars, so its not like its never happened before.
But I find it puzzling as to just who will buy this player.
Paying such a huge sum so you can hit the bargain bin at Walmart
is kinda silly.
When I EXPLAINED to friends and family that my DVD player was 130 bucks (on closeout) they thought that was rediculous.
And the 600 dollar one I bought when you could get one for a hundred bucks?
PLEASE

[Smokey]

I can understand why the companies are focusing on upscale titles, but its a mistake, I SAW dozens of titles at WALMART while picking up some cheap drinks, you can only watch so many movies, if you concentrate on building your collection you never will run outta stuff to buy, Fifth element and terminator II were fourteen bucks, not five but the quality jump is huge.

Idon't disagree that quality jump might not be huge (better is probably more accurate), but you also have to consider the content also. I must have seen T2 and Fifth Element (have FE on Superbit) 100 times already, and don't think be spending more money on same title just for sake of better resolution and color.

And once the wow factor is gone , we re back to square one as far as content is concern. I rather spend on a movie on DVD that have not seen before.

Also check out this exhausting review where the reviewer put Toshiba DVD player against Onkyo DV-HD805 and Oppo DV-981HD upconvert players which cost 2 to 3 times more than Toshiba. And results are eye opener.

http://www.amazon.com/review/product...R211E844VYQ78D

Sir Terrance does NOT like to be contradicted. If you make that mistake you are likely to be called an ignorant peabrain and a liar.

In Rodney King voice......

"Can't we all get along without name calling"

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Idon't disagree that quality jump might not be huge (better is probably more accurate), but you also have to consider the content also. I must have seen T2 and Fifth Element (have FE on Superbit) 100 times already, and don't think be spending more money on same title just for sake of better resolution and color.

And once the wow factor is gone , we re back to square one as far as content is concern. I rather spend on a movie on DVD that have not seen before.

Also check out this exhausting review where the reviewer put Toshiba DVD player against Onkyo DV-HD805 and Oppo DV-981HD upconvert players which cost 2 to 3 times more than Toshiba. And results are eye opener.

http://www.amazon.com/review/product...R211E844VYQ78D



In Rodney King voice......

"Can't we all get along without name calling"

no

You do know that tosh and Onkyo have a very close business relationship dont you?
Heres probably the best idea, just get a BLU player and the newest tosh "gimmick", around 450 bucks and you get the best of both worlds.
I would buy a tosh if I THOUGHT THE UPCONVERSION was much better than on my Sony Blu player, just to watch dvd on.
But I dont think it will be worth it, really