Samsung Cuts Into Vizio Lead in U.S.

[frahengeo]

You don't know me that well to come to this conclusion.

Not fully, but getting there. Your recent response to NF is a perfect example. Keep those types of comments coming. Not doing you any good.

You really need to tuck your emotions back into your pocket.

You need to keep derogatory comments out of this forum. So you've installed AV gear, and you've reviewed blu-ray titles, you have access to information that I don't. So what? Get off your high horse.
I assume that you've been published?? What titles have you reviewed on blu-ray.com? Do you use phrases like cheap-skate and JoeWal-Mart.

We would also get along if you didn't try and act like God, or my father.

Yeah. Look who's talking here.

In the context of this discussion, yes it does.

I totally disagree. The discussion should have centered around poor performances of Vizio, and how Samsung recently closed the gap potentially due to recent price cuts. Furthermore, we could have discussed how they were able to cut prices, if that was the reason in the first place.
Samsung's recent success has nothing to do not with "JoeCostco", since according to you, JoeCostco would only find Vizio and/or Funai at their favorite store. Extremely arrogant and uppity statement.

You can find Sony flat panels at walmart, but they will not be from the Bravia or XBR line of flat panels, their more expensive performance oriented models.

I think I already covered that.

Let me clarify. COSTCO has those brands and yes, Bravia too, so no it wasn't covered. I don't know what Wal-Mart carries, but I'll take your word on that one.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Not fully, but getting there. Your recent response to NF is a perfect example. Keep those types of comments coming. Not doing you any good.

You have a very long way to go man, so please delay your opinions until enough information is gleaned to come to an accurate one. It will takes years, so don't think you have figured things out in a days worth of postings, or even a weeks or months.

NF and I have a long history. Since you do not know that history, so then it would behoove you to curtail your uneducated analysis of our interactions.

You need to keep derogatory comments out of this forum. So you've installed AV gear, and you've reviewed blu-ray titles, you have access to information that I don't. So what? Get off your high horse.
I assume that you've been published?? What titles have you reviewed on blu-ray.com? Do you use phrases like cheap-skate and JoeWal-Mart.

You need to stop telling me what to do, and govern your own behavior. I don't care for horses or heights. Yes I have published, and I have access to ALOT of information you don't. Blu-ray.com is an open website, go look at what titles I have reviewed yourself, I should not have to list them for you here. There are 93 of them for you to find so far, and if you want to know if I used the words cheapskate and JoeWalmart, read them and find out.

Yeah. Look who's talking here.

That would require you have a mirror.

I totally disagree. The discussion should have centered around poor performances of Vizio, and how Samsung recently closed the gap potentially due to recent price cuts. Furthermore, we could have discussed how they were able to cut prices, if that was the reason in the first place.

Discussions evolve and are not usually limited on this forum to just one topic per thread. Discussions can often wander in several directions in any given thread, that is how it has been for more than twelve years I have been participating here. You are welcomed and encouraged to agree or disagree, that is your God given right. However you do not see me telling you which to choose like you are telling what to do right?

Samsung's recent success has nothing to do not with "JoeCostco", since according to you, JoeCostco would only find Vizio and/or Funai at their favorite store. Extremely arrogant and uppity statement.

Boy, I must have really outed you or something to get you this wound up. To be labeled arrogant and uppity requires knowledge, experience and be in the presence with the individual you are labeling. You have none of this, so save your uniformed labels for those you do have a knowledge, been in the presence of, and have the history with.

Samsung success comes from being smart enough to design and manufacturer a panel that is affordable to the masses, being marketed to the masses, and found in a store where the budget conscious masses go to shop. One does not go to a big box store looking for performance oriented products, they are looking for a bargain based ones.

Let me clarify. COSTCO has those brands and yes, Bravia too, so no it wasn't covered. I don't know what Wal-Mart carries, but I'll take your word on that one.

It was covered, and your denial doesn't change that. The Bravia line consists of many models at different price points with different levels of performance. You are not going to find the top of the line high performance Bravia lines with all the performance laden bells and whistles in costco stores, it is beyond the price point that moves product. All of the major electronic manufacturing giants design and manufacture lower performing brands of their panels to be sold at big box stores. You can move a lot of televisions that way, and use the profits to fund R&D and find operating and manufacturing efficiencies that increase profits. Manufacturers also use costco to clear out inventories of obsolete, non supported and dated technology such as DLP RPTV's, and last years lines of televisions. These products if they cost over 2k will be on their website, not in their stores. I have three costco's within driving distance of my house, and I am VERY familiar of what they carry in their stores, especially their electronics. I also know that those Polo shirts I buy from there are either unsold overstock from polo stores, or last years lines and designs. Major clothing manufacturers also use costco in much the same way as electronics companies do. The walmarts and costco brick and mortar stores of this world are designed for impulse buying. Anything over 2k is pass the impulse of the majority of budget conscious consumers.

It is not common to not use the word BRAND to identify a company name. A brand is called Bravia, the company that manufactures that BRAND of television is called Sony. There is a difference.

[frahengeo]

You have a very long way to go man, so please delay your opinions until enough information is gleaned to come to an accurate one. It will takes years, so don't think you have figured things out in a days worth of postings, or even a weeks or months.

NF and I have a long history. Since you do not know that history, so then it would behoove you to curtail your uneducated analysis of our interactions.

You're right. I don't know either of you or your relationship. And since its unlikely that I'll meet you, I only have your statements, the tone in which you make those statements to assess you by. And this is what I'm doing.

Boy, I must have really outed you or something to get you this wound up. To be labeled arrogant and uppity requires knowledge, experience and be in the presence with the individual you are labeling. You have none of this, so save your uniformed labels for those you do have a knowledge, been in the presence of, and have the history with.

Outed me? Like you, I do buy some stuff there. I like a bargain and don't believe in paying full retail.

No. I said your STATEMENT was an arrogant one.

It is not common to not use the word BRAND to identify a company name. A brand is called Bravia, the company that manufactures that BRAND of television is called Sony. There is a difference.

?? (Q: What brand TV do you have? A: I have a Sony, Q: What model is it? A: It is a xxxx Bravia XBR8.) The following is uncommon: Q: What Manufacturer's TV do you have? Lastly, you only mentioned Funai and Vizio in connection with Costco.

Okay T, I am done with this argument. Feel free to put in the last word, but I've got a long weekend coming up and getting some quality time with the wife and my two boys.

[Worf101]

Frahengo.. okay. I've been round here a bit longer than you and know Sir TT pretty well. While his comments about Joe this and that might have struck you as insulting or patronizing I believe they were done "off hand". I've discussed many things with Sir TT over the years and learned much from him I've never found him to be evil or arrogant. I personally give most posters the benefit of the doubt because the internet doesn't allow for tonal variation or nuance like speech does. If I personnaly thought Sir TT was chittin' on poor folks I'd call him out too, but honestly don't think he was.

I just hate to see folks cuttin' on one another is all. There, I've said my piece.

Da Worfster

[bobsticks]

Frahengo.. okay. I've been round here a bit longer than you and know Sir TT pretty well. While his comments about Joe this and that might have struck you as insulting or patronizing I believe they were done "off hand". I've discussed many things with Sir TT over the years and learned much from him I've never found him to be evil or arrogant. I personally give most posters the benefit of the doubt because the internet doesn't allow for tonal variation or nuance like speech does. If I personnaly thought Sir TT was chittin' on poor folks I'd call him out too, but honestly don't think he was.

I just hate to see folks cuttin' on one another is all. There, I've said my piece.

Da Worfster

Well said and I concur...

[frahengeo]

Well said and I concur...

Worf/Bob,

Your comments are noted. While what you say may be true, I feel that its for this very reason, that one should be careful of what is said or typed. Furthermore, I think that we can all agree that discussions regarding race, religion, class, or any other similarly categorical qualities should be left out of an open forum. It rarely ever leads to anything good and you never know who is reading.

Those aforementioned "labels", I took to be an attack on class. I find it very difficult to tolerate and had to comment and will continue to comment (at least until someone removes me).

At this point, its probably best if we just moved on.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Worf/Bob,

Your comments are noted. While what you say may be true, I feel that its for this very reason, that one should be careful of what is said or typed. Furthermore, I think that we can all agree that discussions regarding race, religion, class, or any other similarly categorical qualities should be left out of an open forum. It rarely ever leads to anything good and you never know who is reading.

Those aforementioned "labels", I took to be an attack on class. I find it very difficult to tolerate and had to comment and will continue to comment (at least until someone removes me).

At this point, its probably best if we just moved on.

You know, you should not be so quick to draw your gun. It is obvious that you misunderstood this so called "label", as no others seem to take it like you do. I already said that I didn't mean it as a slight, but you continue to take it that way. You took it as an attack(only God knows why), and I meant it as a buyer distinction, not anything based on class. Some very wealthy people shop at both Costco and Walmart, so this attack on class you mention is your lack of understanding that in fact ALL classes shop at these places. They may not buy electronics there, but they do shop there. Perhaps this "class" filter is effecting how you interpret things, making every comment negative. You might want to check that filter, because I am not going to change how I write, or what I write to accomodate a personal filter.