Pioneer done making tv's

[Duds]

well congrats to an audio company for making the best TVs you can buy, LOL!!!

and even though you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground, my pioneer is a pioneer, even if it was a Panny, I'd still take a Panny plasma any day of the week over your Fischer Price toy.

PIONEER is an audio company, they have always relied on OEM for video products.
But dont sweat it, panasonic is a good company, even tho you bought one by your own ignorance.[/QUOTE]

[Rich-n-Texas]

well congrats to an audio company for making the best TVs you can buy, LOL!!!

and even though you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground, my pioneer is a pioneer, even if it was a Panny, I'd still take a Panny plasma any day of the week over your Fischer Price toy.

Great stuff Duds!

Pix, you're a dumbass.

[Groundbeef]

I have 2 Pioneer Plasmas. Neither are Pannys. Although, as others have said, I would rather a Panny, than the Aldi Special (Vizio).

I was reading this article about Vizio and their business model. Some highlights:

http://www.allbusiness.com/north-ame...4064638-1.html

"One of the company's biggest costs is advertising, according to Schindler, vice president of marketing and operations." (Notice that advertising costs are higher than component costs. IE sell ****, but advertise the heck out of it.) Nice.

"The company's tactic: strip down sets to their most basic components and work closely with stores-mostly warehouse clubs-on prices."

"As with cheap monitors, Vizio is going after volume."

Those are quotes from their Marketing Dept. Nice to be chasing the same market as cheap monitors.

This is another article dealing with Vizio:
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6562112.html

"Schindler said we really believe in plasma technology and think it has some advantages over LCD, even though in the retail environment plasma will glare more with the light," he said. "We want to keep plasma alive and keep a good balance."

Isn't that interesting? Vizio contends that Plasma has some advantages over LCD. I guess that they forgot to send pix the memo. What a dork.

[JSE]

I was reading this article about Vizio and their business model. Some highlights:

"One of the company's biggest costs is advertising, according to Schindler, vice president of marketing and operations." (Notice that advertising costs are higher than component costs. IE sell ****, but advertise the heck out of it. Nice.

Are we talking about Vizio or Bose here?

That's gotta hurt a little there Pix.

[Luvin Da Blues]

I'm sure he'll point out that he owns a Vizio LCD not a plasma. Not sure why you guys bother trying to edumacate him tho.

[pixelthis]

Are we talking about Vizio or Bose here?

That's gotta hurt a little there Pix.

nothing the nimrods on this site say bother me a bit.
Its like a bunch of boobs with square wheels making fun of the guy with round ones.
Plasma is a fundamentally flawed tech, and the only question is can the industry
sell enough units to break even to enough idiots before word gets out.
Plasma will be nowhere to be found in five years except attics and yard sales.
TRUST ME ON THIS ONE

[JSE]

nothing the nimrods on this site say bother me a bit.
Its like a bunch of boobs with square wheels making fun of the guy with round ones.
Plasma is a fundamentally flawed tech, and the only question is can the industry
sell enough units to break even to enough idiots before word gets out.
Plasma will be nowhere to be found in five years except attics and yard sales.
TRUST ME ON THIS ONE

Yeah, but I am not the one who owns the Bose equivalent of a TV. LCD vs. Plasma aside, it's all about marketing to people who don't know any better.

Just go ahead and buy the Bose 123 system now and get it over with.

[pixelthis]

Yeah, but I am not the one who owns the Bose equivalent of a TV. LCD vs. Plasma aside, it's all about marketing to people who don't know any better.

Like the insane marketing going on , trying to get pinheads to buy plasmas based on snob appeal.

Just go ahead and buy the Bose 123 system now and get it over with.

Just go ahead and marry your cousin and get it over with.

[pixelthis]

I have 2 Pioneer Plasmas. Neither are Pannys. Although, as others have said, I would rather a Panny, than the Aldi Special (Vizio).

I was reading this article about Vizio and their business model. Some highlights:

http://www.allbusiness.com/north-ame...4064638-1.html

"One of the company's biggest costs is advertising, according to Schindler, vice president of marketing and operations." (Notice that advertising costs are higher than component costs. IE sell ****, but advertise the heck out of it.) Nice.

"The company's tactic: strip down sets to their most basic components and work closely with stores-mostly warehouse clubs-on prices."

"As with cheap monitors, Vizio is going after volume."

Those are quotes from their Marketing Dept. Nice to be chasing the same market as cheap monitors.

This is another article dealing with Vizio:
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6562112.html

"Schindler said we really believe in plasma technology and think it has some advantages over LCD, even though in the retail environment plasma will glare more with the light," he said. "We want to keep plasma alive and keep a good balance."

Isn't that interesting? Vizio contends that Plasma has some advantages over LCD. I guess that they forgot to send pix the memo. What a dork.

AND LETS SEEEE.
WHO are YOU?
oh, yeah, AFTER A 2700$ meltdown of YOU'RE plasma POS you were stupid enough to BUY ANOTHER ONE!!!
WHY the crap should anyone listen to anything you have to say?

Attack VIZIO all you want, quote things out of context ALL DAY LONG.
You cant beat reality, and the reality IS that plasma is a flawed form factor.
A "DEAD" FLAWED FORM FACTOR.

[Groundbeef]

AND LETS SEEEE.
WHO are YOU?
oh, yeah, AFTER A 2700$ meltdown of YOU'RE plasma POS you were stupid enough to BUY ANOTHER ONE!!!
WHY the crap should anyone listen to anything you have to say?

Attack VIZIO all you want, quote things out of context ALL DAY LONG.
You cant beat reality, and the reality IS that plasma is a flawed form factor.
A "DEAD" FLAWED FORM FACTOR.

They were not out of context. Read the articles, I gave both sources. They are pretty short, so it shouldn't take too much time.

And, as far as my TV that died, are you contending that there is NO Vizio TV (LCD or Plasma) that had NEVER died?

And if Plasma is so bad, why is your beloved bottom feeder shilling both Plasma AND LCD?

There really isn't much more to say. Vizio "belives" in Plasma. They make Plasma. They see Plasma as a key to their business model. So it must just be you.

[pixelthis]

They were not out of context. Read the articles, I gave both sources. They are pretty short, so it shouldn't take too much time.

And, as far as my TV that died, are you contending that there is NO Vizio TV (LCD or Plasma) that had NEVER died?

And if Plasma is so bad, why is your beloved bottom feeder shilling both Plasma AND LCD?

There really isn't much more to say. Vizio "belives" in Plasma. They make Plasma. They see Plasma as a key to their business model. So it must just be you.

Thats why they just quit MAKING PLASMA.
EVERYBODY makes misteps from time to time, glad they caught theirs.

[pixelthis]

Great stuff Duds!

Pix, you're a dumbass.

WHICH puts me about 50 I.Q points above you
You spend blu prices on a DVD player and call me a dumbass?

[Rich-n-Texas]

WHICH puts me about 50 I.Q points above you
You spend blu prices on a DVD player and call me a dumbass?

Yes. You ARE a dumbass. Show me a new, in the box "blu" that costs $169. And remember, I don't shop at Odd Lot's or your employer, Wal-mart.

As long as you hang here for no other reason than to stir up the pot and attempt to put some very knowlegable in a bad light, I'll continue to call you as I and many other here see you. You got your shtick, I got mine pix.