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[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

As I've said before, the movie industry penalizes legitimate customers with its archaic practices and limits the vast world of convenience technology provides.

Then wonders why business is down.

Your sour grapes are pitful, and your facts are inaccurate. DVD sales are down, but Bluray sales are up, and income from streaming is way up. The industry is very healthy thanks to diversified income sources. The studio's no longer have to depend on disc sales alone for revenue.

Yes you said it before and you where wrong then. Now you are saying it again, and you are still wrong.

The majority of those that purchase disc don't do it so they can rip it to a server. Survey after survey has pointed this out, and this is why content sharing has not been implemented on Bluray. The majority just want to put it in a player and push play. So your perspective is not a shared one.

[E-Stat]

Your sour grapes are pitful, and your facts are inaccurate. DVD sales are down, but Bluray sales are up

Sorry, I was talking about total volume where its down- not relative gains.

, and income from streaming is way up.

Exactly! No players and winking, blinking ,waiting and farting around to be found here!

The industry is very healthy thanks to diversified income sources.

But down from it's heyday.

So your perspective is not a shared one.

Indeed. Most folks have no idea what is possible. Like Smokey who follows video trends.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Sorry, I was talking about total volume where its down- not relative gains.

You are still wrong. Revenue is up for the first three quarters of this year.

Exactly! No players and winking, blinking ,waiting and farting around to be found here!

And no high resolution as well.

But down from it's heyday.

So what, everything else is up - up high enough to counter the slide of DVD sales. The studios no longer depend solely on DVD sales, they now get income from a variety of sources.

Indeed. Most folks have no idea what is possible. Like Smokey who follows video trends.

No, folks are concentrating on what works for them, not what works for YOU. There is no trend towards movie servers to follow, you are throwing up a red herring here.

[E-Stat]

You are still wrong. Revenue is up for the first three quarters of this year.

Maybe this year will turn around the consistently downward trend of the last several years. Quarterly figures don't mean much.

And no high resolution as well.

1080p is sufficiently high resolution for me.

So what, everything else is up - up high enough to counter the slide of DVD sales.

I refer to the entire market. More choices, yes. Total revenue, down.

[Feanor]

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1080p is sufficiently high resolution for me.
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Ditto that for me ... I know, I know: I'm a crotchety old man.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Ditto that for me ... I know, I know: I'm a crotchety old man.

I know a certain equipment reviewer named Steve Guttenburg who said 4K was a waste on a television set. His tune changed profoundly when he saw the Sony 4K set at CES.

While I understand 4K is not for everybody, that is where the television industry and future AV formats are headed.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Maybe this year will turn around the consistently downward trend of the last several years. Quarterly figures don't mean much.

Quarter figures accumulate to a total at the end of the year - so they do matter even if you want to dismiss this.

1080p is sufficiently high resolution for me.

Well then, it looks like you are gonna have to put up with the disc, beeps, squawks and chirps for a while, cause you are not going to get that with ANY streaming format.

I refer to the entire market. More choices, yes. Total revenue, down.

When a person posts misinformation once, they made a simple mistake. When they do it twice, they are repeating a lie. You have repeated this assertion three times, so what does that make you?

Total revenue is up not down. Total revenue from DVD is down. Total revenue from Bluray, streaming, even with DVD being down is up 13,3%

Where ever you get your information from, give it back to them.

[E-Stat]

Quarter figures accumulate to a total at the end of the year - so they do matter even if you want to dismiss this.

If the numbers were consistent from quarter to quarter, they would matter. A rise in one is no assurance of a rise in others.

You have repeated this assertion three times, so what does that make you?

Able to read online reports from the internet about historical sales figures. BR and digital increases have not kept pace with declining DVD sales.

DEG sales figures through 2010

DEG 2011 figures

"Consumers spent a total of $18.04 billion on Blu-ray Disc, DVD and digital sales and rentals during the year, about 2% less than the $18.43 billion they spent in 2010, according to DEG, which bases its figures on studio and retail data."

By all means, present the data behind your assertion to the contrary.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

If the numbers were consistent from quarter to quarter, they would matter. A rise in one is no assurance of a rise in others.

You obviously did not read what I posted. The sales have been rising consistently for THREE QUARTERS, not just one.

Able to read online reports from the internet about historical sales figures. BR and digital increases have not kept pace with declining DVD sales.

DEG sales figures through 2010

DEG 2011 figures

"Consumers spent a total of $18.04 billion on Blu-ray Disc, DVD and digital sales and rentals during the year, about 2% less than the $18.43 billion they spent in 2010, according to DEG, which bases its figures on studio and retail data."

By all means, present the data behind your assertion to the contrary.

You post data from 2010 and 2011 and want to be taken seriously here? Are you sure your name is not Bozo, because you sure are behaving like a clown.

Here is first half sales figures.

Hollywood extends slow turnaround in home video sales | Reuters

While a rise of Bluray sales alone have not offset DVD sales declines(3.7% overall loss) according to NDP(which is far more comprehensive than DEG) Streaming licensing sales have increased 38% which tallies to a 35% increase in home video entertainment sales as of the end of the third quarter(September). So there is absolutely no truth to your assertion that the studios are losing money. We have not even talked out licensing income the studios are getting from VUDU, Netflix, Amazon, are other streaming sites which according to NDP has jumped 120% from two years ago. When Netflix first negotiated contracts with the studios to stream their movies, it costs them 300 million dollars to do it. This year Netflix estimates it will cost them $1 billion dollars to negotiate those same contracts. That is Netflix alone Ralph.

Last time I checked, you cannot use sales figures from 1-2 years ago to describe what is happening today This is like taking my birthday from two years ago to tell my age today.. You need to get it through your thick head that the financial health of the studios is no longer tied to the DVD. That is the old financial model. These days the studios get revenue from a plethora of sources - that is the new model.

Get with the times Ralph.