New Harris Poll bashes Blu ray!

[filecat13]

I some how missed McCain and Obama's views on the internet. I'd think Obama being a democrat was more supportive since Al invented it

I think Obama might put Internet Al on his cabinet as the nation's first CTO.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/0...itics-of-tech/

Yes, it's biased and it's not the definitive article on the subject, but it's still a good snapshot.

[Mr Peabody]

That was interesting how MS got employees to pose as ordinary citizens on the internet. I wonder if that's Sir T's role, he sure is a BR, BDA and industry defender no matter what. You rarely see a person who totally agrees with everything a company does. He isn't very professional in his posts but maybe that's part of the guise.

[Ajani]

That was interesting how MS got employees to pose as ordinary citizens on the internet. I wonder if that's Sir T's role, he sure is a BR, BDA and industry defender no matter what. You rarely see a person who totally agrees with everything a company does. He isn't very professional in his posts but maybe that's part of the guise.

LOL.... I think we just have too many hardcore fanatics on this site.... Sir T's love of Blu Ray is not that much worse than some of the brand worship that regularly occurs in the audio threads.... Though, who knows? Some of those 'fanatics' could be on manufacturer's payrolls

[blackraven]

BR sales are doing very well here. Some of the stores cant keep BR players in stock because they are selling so well. And most people I talk to dont want to be bothered downloading off the internet to obtain their movies. People are busy and many people have limited computer skills and have cheap computers with little HD space. Its more convienent to stop by Blockbuster and browse the movie section and rent a movie. Especially when many people have more than one TV and may want to move it around the house, especially with kids. Now I live in the Burbs and it may be differnent for people living in the city.

I think that VOD will be huge but I dont think BR will disappear.

[pixelthis]

BR sales are doing very well here. Some of the stores cant keep BR players in stock because they are selling so well. And most people I talk to dont want to be bothered downloading off the internet to obtain their movies. People are busy and many people have limited computer skills and have cheap computers with little HD space. Its more convienent to stop by Blockbuster and browse the movie section and rent a movie. Especially when many people have more than one TV and may want to move it around the house, especially with kids. Now I live in the Burbs and it may be differnent for people living in the city.

I think that VOD will be huge but I dont think BR will diappear.

I certainly hope not. I am counting on this format to "archive" my favorite movies.
I understand that initaal cost of players in a new format are high, until economies
of scale kick in, but they need to get the price of these down as soon as posible.
And boost the PR, show peeps the advantage of blu.
You can win the "format war" AND LOSE THE PEACE

[Mr Peabody]

I agree Blackraven, I am one who is not interested in the least in download, I haven't even downloaded music and not sure I would even know how. I'd probably hit download, it would do it but I'd never find it again. You can't ignore though that there are factions out there who is trying to push it. I believe it will be an alternative and all these things will exist in the market much the same way they do now. There will undoubtedly be a fight for market share though. You can see the camps gearing up, cable companies are standardizing and working with manufacturers to make compatible TV's with the boxes built in. Netflix will be looking to do something because their profits are starting to drop due to mail cost. I think the popularity of Netflix and Blockbusters competitor service shows at least some are looking for more convenience. I miss some of the movies that come out so I like to browse the isles of the video store. That's one thing I used to like about the movie channels but satelite and cable are so expensive who can keep the premiums anymore.

[blackraven]

The other problem with VOD is who wants to have your computer hooked up to your TV. If the cable and sat. providers offer onscreen browsing of hundreds if not thousands of titles then it may work, But on screen browsing will be a pain in the A$$, having to scroll through hundreds of titles. Its so much easier to pop over to BB and walk the isles and pick up the movie and read the review on the box to see if you want to rent it. We ususally rent 2-3 movies at a time.

The other thing is that there are still millions of people who cant afford the $50-60 per month cable TV bill along with the $50 per month cable internet fee. Dial up is still alive and well.

And with gas prices going up and its affect on food prices and all commodities, less people are going to be able to afford cable services such as TV and internet. So owning a BR player and renting movies the old fashion way still makes sense.

[pixelthis]

The other problem with VOD is who wants to have your computer hooked up to your TV. If the cable and sat. providers offer onscreen browsing of hundreds if not thousands of titles then it may work, But on screen browsing will be a pain in the A$$, having to scroll through hundreds of titles. Its so much easier to pop over to BB and walk the isles and pick up the movie and read the review on the box to see if you want to rent it. We ususally rent 2-3 movies at a time.

The other thing is that there are still millions of people who cant afford the $50-60 per month cable TV bill along with the $50 per month cable internet fee. Dial up is still alive and well.

And with gas prices going up and its affect on food prices and all commodities, less people are going to be able to afford cable services such as TV and internet. So owning a BR player and renting movies the old fashion way still makes sense.

WELL, just about everybody who sees my setup wants it.
My "monitor" is my 37" vizio, hooked up with a dsub, higher res than HDTV actually.
But its not for movies but music, and web surfing.
Cable is primarily where VOD is at these days, and primarily where I get my movies at.
But they put those computer connections on TV for a reason.
Once you go with big screen net surfing its hard to go back to the 21" screen

[Mr Peabody]

Hey Pix, I saw you can get a PS3 from Wal-mart for $399.00 and you get a $100.00 gift card. I'm not sure all the details but surely it's on their website.

[pixelthis]

Hey Pix, I saw you can get a PS3 from Wal-mart for $399.00 and you get a $100.00 gift card. I'm not sure all the details but surely it's on their website.

they have bundles from 399$ to 499$, a 40 gig and a 100$ gift card.
I guess the idea is you buy movies with the card.
Of course with teh convoluted logic of groundbeef the player still
will cost 399$
THANKS for the heads up

http://www.walmart.com/search/search...ps3%22&ic=48_0

[Mr Peabody]

A friend of mine who was really interested in that PS3 deal says they are sold out online. I wonder if they sold that many or if they were expecting a shipment in they were wanting to unload. He didn't think this deal was available in the local stores.

[pixelthis]

A friend of mine who was really interested in that PS3 deal says they are sold out online. I wonder if they sold that many or if they were expecting a shipment in they were wanting to unload. He didn't think this deal was available in the local stores.

I saw that.
And maybe its a hopefull sign.
You know, those 299$ players around the holidays sold quite well.
Thats the price of this with the "gift card".
299$ is probably the "decider" price which tips a lot over the edge.

[GMichael]

I see that the $100 Walley-World coupons are being handed out for BR player sales as well as for PS/3's. These are an option for people who don't have HDMI receivers or pre/pros.

[Mr Peabody]

BR players too? Wow, if you can get the deal with the $298.00 Magnavox that's getting down there.

PS3's are already back in stock, they must have been waiting for the ship.

[GMichael]

BR players too? Wow, if you can get the deal with the $298.00 Magnavox that's getting down there.

PS3's are already back in stock, they must have been waiting for the ship.

Not sure if it works for all BR players or just a few models. What I read is, "Wal-mart offers a $100 gift card with the purchase of the Sony PS3 and other Blu-ray players."

Here's the link. The title may have been a little missleading. http://www.i4u.com/article17808.html

[Rich-n-Texas]

Not sure if it works for all BR players or just a few models. What I read is, "Wal-mart offers a $100 gift card with the purchase of the Sony PS3 and other Blu-ray players."

Here's the link. The title may have been a little missleading. http://www.i4u.com/article17808.html

What's this? What are you guys talking about???

[Rich-n-Texas]

Meh. Nevermind. The deal's only good on the 40 Gig. :thumbsdown:

[pixelthis]

Meh. Nevermind. The deal's only good on the 40 Gig. :thumbsdown:

ALRIGHT mr bigshot with your emotiva amp.
Why is 40 gig too small?
All it requires is being carefull, and you could always put your own HD in there,
plenty of instruction on the web

[GMichael]

ALRIGHT mr bigshot with your emotiva amp.
Why is 40 gig too small?
All it requires is being carefull, and you could always put your own HD in there,
plenty of instruction on the web

Maybe he wants it to play SACD's. But I thought he already had one of those.

[Mr Peabody]

Rich! keep up.

I don't think I'd go farting around putting HD's into a new PS3, especially if you expect your warranty to be honored. How much are HD's? Adding that could make the deal not such a deal.

[Rich-n-Texas]

Don't worry, I won't be hacking the hardware in the PS3. The 40 gig box isn't backwards compatible; L.J. (God rest his soul) mentioned a few other differences and even though I may never use up all 80, it'll be nice to have JIC.

I don't own any SACD's because there aren't any genre's/titles that interest me, and the DVD-A's that I do own will play on my current changer.

But this thread wasn't about me, so carry on.

[pixelthis]

Don't worry, I won't be hacking the hardware in the PS3. The 40 gig box isn't backwards compatible; L.J. (God rest his soul) mentioned a few other differences and even though I may never use up all 80, it'll be nice to have JIC.

I don't own any SACD's because there aren't any genre's/titles that interest me, and the DVD-A's that I do own will play on my current changer.

But this thread wasn't about me, so carry on.

You mean you cant find a compatible hard drive, clone the one in the PS3, and put the larger HD back in?
GEE WILLIKERS!

[techjunkie]

You mean you cant find a compatible hard drive, clone the one in the PS3, and put the larger HD back in?
GEE WILLIKERS!

Yup... just like this : http://www.gamersreports.com/article/43/

100GB+

The only question is old game saves, but I would think sector for sector copy would suffice for this.

[Mr Peabody]

Ahh, Rich but we like talking about you.

[Mr Peabody]

Pix is right, no problem, I've been building PS3 compatible machines in my garage. You can tell the difference between mine and Sony's, except mine is better. I will sell a 160 GB for $199.00 and nearly double my money. AR buds get a discount $197.99. but you can't tell anyone. I can offer a larger HD but price goes up. I can tell you my machine does much better SD upsampling than the PS3. I have a connection on a top secret chip that is even better than Silicon Optix for a fraction of the price. I can also offer the kit if you want to build it yourself for only 189.99. You say that's not much discount, well baby I have cheap labor, kids are on summer vacation. You want one, up the money and hush.