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    Umm people - it's called BTJUNKIE or other bittorent search engine.

    Download any tv show and movie for FREE. Then if you like said tv show or movie and want a good quality version of it then buy it.

    I pay for internet - no cable or sat. It's a ripoff to pay for advertising and netflix's offerings are pathetic - it's not worth $8 when the world is your oyster for your already paid for internet charge.

    With the torrents you get what you want - most of which is difficult or not available on DVD or Blu Ray. Downloaded the entire series the "Practice" - when the hell is that ever going to come on DVD if ever? Bah why wait? Doctor Who the complete Tom Baker and John Pertwee run - sure you can buy a boxed set of a Season for a ridiculous $100+ dollars (which I paid for) but that's one season of Tom's 7 year run (and not the best one - key to time) and the quality is better than the download but - I connect the tv to the PC input and you pretty much get the regular tv broadcast quality - it's free and it's "good enough" quality. A truer original tv going experience at least.

    Granted in Canada this is legal - don't know about the U.S. Uploading will cause you problems however i believe. But you are allowed to listen to CD's in the store before you buy. So my take on it is that watch it - but if you like it - buy it - support the artist and film/tv industry - So I downloaded Boston Legal - I liked it so I purchased the entire Series on DVD. I downloaded battlestar Galactica - I liked it so again bought the entire series on DVD. Downloaded Bob Newhart's original series - didn't really like it enough to want it so I deleted it didn't buy it.

    Like the show Taxi - would buy it - they used to sell the series here but can't find it anymore so until I see it I am keeping it on my drive. Practice isn't available so I'm keeping it and some other shows I will buy when the price isn't absurd.

    And if it wasn't for torrents I never would have likely watched a show like Dexter - and because of BTJUNKIE - I watched Dexter - told all my friends to watch it - I bought all the seasons that are available and so did most of them - so before you dump on downloading the film industry got a bunch of sales out of it than they ever would have if such sites didn't exist - because I would never buy HBO and never would have seen it. So because of downloading they sold a bunch of discs. Granted some people won't but some sales is better than zero sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGA View Post
    Umm people - it's called BTJUNKIE or other bittorent search engine.

    Download any tv show and movie for FREE. Then if you like said tv show or movie and want a good quality version of it then buy it.
    This is also very illegal, and a pain in the arse for most people who don't care to connect computers to their TVs. Netflix has grown to nearly 25 million subscribers because it's easy to use (the app is included with the majority of Blu-ray players and gaming consoles), it's cheap, and the content library (in the US at least) is huge.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    I pay for internet - no cable or sat. It's a ripoff to pay for advertising and netflix's offerings are pathetic - it's not worth $8 when the world is your oyster for your already paid for internet charge.
    Netflix's offerings in the US are far more extensive than what they carry in Canada. You have no idea what kind of an impact Netflix has actually had in the US market. By some estimates, upwards of 1/3 of all US broadband activity in prime time is Netflix traffic.

    And how much bandwidth are you going through every month by torrenting? In case you haven't noticed, most ISPs are starting to impose data caps on their broadband service. Canadian ISPs were among the first ones to go in that direction, and their data caps start a lot lower than what we're seeing in the US. And because torrenting simultaneously uploads while downloading, it chews through bandwidth much faster than using another streaming site.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    With the torrents you get what you want - most of which is difficult or not available on DVD or Blu Ray. Downloaded the entire series the "Practice" - when the hell is that ever going to come on DVD if ever? Bah why wait? Doctor Who the complete Tom Baker and John Pertwee run - sure you can buy a boxed set of a Season for a ridiculous $100+ dollars (which I paid for) but that's one season of Tom's 7 year run (and not the best one - key to time) and the quality is better than the download but - I connect the tv to the PC input and you pretty much get the regular tv broadcast quality - it's free and it's "good enough" quality. A truer original tv going experience at least.
    "Good enough" quality doesn't cut it when you try playing it on a larger TV. The quality issue is the main reason I don't do much torrent downloading.

    In the US, most current network TV series are now available online through the networks' websites (or Hulu, which is a joint venture funded by ABC/Disney, Fox, and NBC/Universal). Their sites also host several cancelled/completed series as well. The Practice, for example, is available for streaming on Hulu to US viewers.

    And with Doctor Who, all of the revival episodes, aside from the current season, are available for streaming on Netflix, along with several of the classic Doctor Who serials.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    Granted in Canada this is legal - don't know about the U.S. Uploading will cause you problems however i believe.
    It's not legal in either country. Canada's status is more uncertain, and so far there have not been any mass P2P lawsuits filed. Just because actions haven't been taken does not mean that P2P file sharing is explicitly legal. Canada's in more of a legal limbo on this issue than anything.

    In the US, the legal lines are more clearly demarcated. There have been lawsuits filed and the plaintiffs have won many of the judgments issued so far. Most of these cases are settled out of court, because fighting them in court is a lot more expensive.

    The problem with using P2P is that your IP address is public information, and that can be easily culled by a plaintiff for a lawsuit. For example, over 20,000 P2P users in the US that "shared" The Hurt Locker were notified that if they didn't pay a settlement of ~$2,000, they would be sued. That case is still going through the court system, but it illustrates the risks that go along with the rewards of "free" movies.

    And in case you didn't know, downloading on BitTorrent automatically means that you're also uploading -- and yes, it is the uploading that opens up the legal Pandora's box.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGA
    But you are allowed to listen to CD's in the store before you buy.
    But, you're not allowed to take a copy home, or start ripping files in the store. And this listen before you buy service is not unlimited, and does not occur in every store. (good luck "trying before buying" at WalMart for example) It's not like you can just crack open a new CD and pop it into your CD player for your in-store listening.

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    And if it wasn't for torrents I never would have likely watched a show like Dexter - and because of BTJUNKIE - I watched Dexter - told all my friends to watch it - I bought all the seasons that are available and so did most of them - so before you dump on downloading the film industry got a bunch of sales out of it than they ever would have if such sites didn't exist - because I would never buy HBO and never would have seen it. So because of downloading they sold a bunch of discs. Granted some people won't but some sales is better than zero sales.
    And Dexter is available for streaming on Netflix in the US.

    You're really on a slippery slope with all this equivocating. Piracy is stealing, simple as that. If you're fine with it, then so be it. But, don't start with all this moralizing about how pirating Dexter was a good thing because you got your friends to buy it. I mean, I've done some P2P downloading as well, but I'm not going to sit here and claim that it's legal or find some farflung justification for it.
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