I want CES 2011 NOW!!!! New Product Rumours

[E-Stat]

...as it's my understanding that modern hi-fi amps all have a frequency response of at least 20-20000 Hz plus or minus 0.5Hz or less.

while driving a resistor on the test bench. The real world of amps driving speakers with wide impedance swings and reactive components, however, can change the mix.

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[Tarheel_]

As a Revel Performa owner, i'm also excited about their new lineup. My local dealer is very cool to allow demos without being in the market.

I for one was seriously let down by the F32 and F50a..only the F52 was on another plane so I expect this new lineup to mimic the 52 and improve on its' sound quality.

Ahh, to win the lottery

[Ajani]

As a Revel Performa owner, i'm also excited about their new lineup. My local dealer is very cool to allow demos without being in the market.

I for one was seriously let down by the F32 and F50a..only the F52 was on another plane so I expect this new lineup to mimic the 52 and improve on its' sound quality.

Ahh, to win the lottery

What did you dislike about the F32? I'm curious since I know I should be able to get a good deal on one when the new series drops, so it would be an option...

[Tarheel_]

What did you dislike about the F32? I'm curious since I know I should be able to get a good deal on one when the new series drops, so it would be an option...

The F32...mostly the mid-range suffered, it just cannot reproduce the sweet airy range the F30 could....plus, the more obvious...bass output. The F32 cannot go nearly as deep or clean as the F30 before it. Bear in mind, with the new- more friendly (WAF) cabinets and the move to smaller woofers on the F32, comprises had to be made.

The F50a is a mess. I never liked either version and was quite surprised by the sound quality when considering their price. For a comparison, this dealer had a new pair of PSB Stratus Silver i's or Gold (cannot remember) which i thought sounded as good or even better overall.

Both were driven with Marantz/Lexicon.

Given a choice I would pass on both and save the funds for a used pair of F52s. A world apart and much, much superior to the F30.

[Ajani]

The F32...mostly the mid-range suffered, it just cannot reproduce the sweet airy range the F30 could....plus, the more obvious...bass output. The F32 cannot go nearly as deep or clean as the F30 before it. Bear in mind, with the new- more friendly (WAF) cabinets and the move to smaller woofers on the F32, comprises had to be made.

The F50a is a mess. I never liked either version and was quite surprised by the sound quality when considering their price. For a comparison, this dealer had a new pair of PSB Stratus Silver i's or Gold (cannot remember) which i thought sounded as good or even better overall.

Both were driven with Marantz/Lexicon.

Given a choice I would pass on both and save the funds for a used pair of F52s. A world apart and much, much superior to the F30.

The bass output I understand... The choice to go for WAF cabinets meant ditching the awesome 10" woofers of the F30... I am surprised to hear that you felt that the midrange suffered, as I've generally read that the midrange on the F32 is better than the F30, and so bass was traded partially for a more refined mid-range...

Anyway, I hope the new series replaces the F32 with a Performa Studio... in other words; dual 8 inch woofers (like the Ultima Studio and Concerta F12) instead of the dual 6.5" of the F32... That should make the Speakers just slightly less thin than the F32 but restore the potent bass of the F30....

[Tarheel_]

The bass output I understand... The choice to go for WAF cabinets meant ditching the awesome 10" woofers of the F30... I am surprised to hear that you felt that the midrange suffered, as I've generally read that the midrange on the F32 is better than the F30, and so bass was traded partially for a more refined mid-range...

Anyway, I hope the new series replaces the F32 with a Performa Studio... in other words; dual 8 inch woofers (like the Ultima Studio and Concerta F12) instead of the dual 6.5" of the F32... That should make the Speakers just slightly less thin than the F32 but restore the potent bass of the F30....

read what you want to read, but i heard quite a difference....the F32 cannot compete with the F30 on most levels....being new doesn't mean better. Somehow the F52 was a break through for the Performa line and dare i say better than the 1st gen studio/salon speakers.
Outside the new upper line, the F52 is the one.

[Ajani]

read what you want to read, but i heard quite a difference....the F32 cannot compete with the F30 on most levels....being new doesn't mean better. Somehow the F52 was a break through for the Performa line and dare i say better than the 1st gen studio/salon speakers.
Outside the new upper line, the F52 is the one.

I really do find it surprising that you found no advantages to the F32... I get that newer doesn't mean better, but considering the approach at Revel for releasing new speakers (it has to definitetively beat the old model in their DBTs) I would have expected the F32 to be an improvement in many areas (other than bass)...

But all that really matters is what you've heard... I've never made the comparison between the F30 and F32, so I can't argue whether one is better than the other... I do know that even if I was to audition the 2 and find the F32 better in the midrange/treble, I'd still be dissapointed by the decision to reduce the bass output... A major part of what made the F30 so special was the full range ability of the speaker... WAF shouldn't be an excuse to lose that special appeal...