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[atomicAdam]

My complaint isn't the quality of sound of the RS6 speakers - it is more the lack of detail and the in ability to form a cohesive image - where all the frequencies sounds integrated and coming from a central point. I could always here the bass being low to the ground. I think for the price, they are fantastic speakers. But I heard better, and moved on.

I would love to give them another go with some of the speaker cables and gear I have my hands on now. I can tell you for sure the slightly bloated mid ranges would be reduced (I hope) and the detail would increase (i hope). But frankly, there are just speakers out there that are more detailed and better at putting together the sound. Obviously, even MA has better speakers than the RS6... Saying I moved on isn't a knock on the speakers, it is just a fact.

[JohnMichael]

I did not have any problem with bloated bass because the Krell keeps a tight grip on the woofers. I agree they could not deliver a cohesive image. Comparing the RS6's to the OML1's which both retailed for about $1,000 proves what I have always thought about speakers. It is easier and cheaper to make a well damped cabinet for a bookshelf speaker than it is a floor standing speaker. I do not remember which audio writer would say under $5,000 buy bookshelf over $5,000 floorstanders. The OML1's using a smaller well damped cabinet and two drivers can image much better than the RS6's using three drivers and a more resonant cabinet. I am sure the PMC's are doing a better job with imaging.

My thoughts are about dynamic drivers in boxes.

[Ajani]

I did not have any problem with bloated bass because the Krell keeps a tight grip on the woofers. I agree they could not deliver a cohesive image. Comparing the RS6's to the OML1's which both retailed for about $1,000 proves what I have always thought about speakers. It is easier and cheaper to make a well damped cabinet for a bookshelf speaker than it is a floor standing speaker. I do not remember which audio writer would say under $5,000 buy bookshelf over $5,000 floorstanders. The OML1's using a smaller well damped cabinet and two drivers can image much better than the RS6's using three drivers and a more resonant cabinet. I am sure the PMC's are doing a better job with imaging.

My thoughts are about dynamic drivers in boxes.

I've heard a few reviewers and mags make similar statements about bookshelfs versus floorstanders... usually the figure was closer to $2K than $5k though... But logically, a $2K small, 2 way monitor should be comprised of far higher quality materials than a $2K, large, 3 way floorstander (assuming the brands spend similar ratios on materials versus design, advertising, profit margins, etc)...

Generally one would expect a small monitor to have a more refined sound than a tower of the same price... The tower should have greater bass extension, scale and dynamic range. So it should be a matter of user preference...

[Ajani]

My complaint isn't the quality of sound of the RS6 speakers - it is more the lack of detail and the in ability to form a cohesive image - where all the frequencies sounds integrated and coming from a central point. I could always here the bass being low to the ground. I think for the price, they are fantastic speakers. But I heard better, and moved on.

I would love to give them another go with some of the speaker cables and gear I have my hands on now. I can tell you for sure the slightly bloated mid ranges would be reduced (I hope) and the detail would increase (i hope). But frankly, there are just speakers out there that are more detailed and better at putting together the sound. Obviously, even MA has better speakers than the RS6... Saying I moved on isn't a knock on the speakers, it is just a fact.

Your earlier post was in between JM's questioning whether he likes metal drivers and RGA's seeming contempt for Monitor Audio... So it seemed more like you were chiming in on the Monitor's Audios not being good...

As for moving on: That should be expected... The RS6 were very good $1K Towers, but $1K is not the end all of HiFi speakers... The reason I never bought a pair of RS6 is because I heard the GS20... Having heard the GS20, I was never willing to accept the lower sound quality of the RS6... Considering the GS20 were triple the price of the RS6, then it better have sounded superior...