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    Ces?

    Yeah I can't believe the amount of bs that monster cable has pulled over the years, not to mention getting away with a lot of it. I think it's a fresh truckload of holiday cheer that they're getting all this bad rap just before CES. I'm going to the show with a few of my other production friends and I guess that monster mini golf has something big planned about all this lawsuit crap there. anyone else going to this?

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    I think the real problem is "the right to sue"

    Quote Originally Posted by MARTINLOGAN123
    In the USA, we are allowed to sue anybody for any type of infringement on our rights. Let it be serious or not the rules still apply. I am not saying I am taking Noel Lee's side and that I hope he wins, or that I am going to boycott his products BECAUSE he is doing something he has the right to do. All I am saying that it seems awfully shallow of people to try to hang Lee over something everyone in the country can do LEGALLY and without question.
    OK, I'll bite. Maybe the "right to sue" should be amended. In other Westernized countries, this right is severely curtailed and as a result, the legal system is fairer, more efficient, and less crowded. Maybe our over litigious society needs to rethink its priorities.

    And the notion that deep corporate pockets do not influence the the process is ludicrous. For every Erin Brockovitch, there are thousands of poor saps who don't succeed in fighting corporate lawsuits. We dismiss the reality that in the US, corporations have too much power and the legal system, and by extension the government, is not designed to stand in the way. It should, but it doesn't.

    Corporations like Monster, Bose, and Sony use the legal system to fight, nay obliterate, competition. This competition is your mom & pop stores, the folks who make a better widget, and the people who are actual capitalists. As long as corporations can continue to buy the legal system, competition will suffer. This is bad for everyone. And when there is no more competition, and the economy reduces sales, then these corporations search for new parties to obliterate. So Monster will next go after Monster's Inc, and the Cookie Monster, because it has to maintain growth and pay dividends to its share-holders. The corporation, by necessity is perpetually growing and destroying.

    If at some point, they do run out of expandable options and they need to buy time to find "new markets", then indeed the stock price crumbles. But then they can always go to the government and request a bail-out. After all, the government cannot allow such a large corporation to "fail", right? Since most people who have been elevated to public office did so with their help, there is little reason to believe that these same people won't bail them out - and they do so religiously. After all these public servants will need to find work when they are termed out of office. Don't let that revolving door hit you on your way out! And this process is cyclical and seems to repeat itself every decade or so (does the name Charles Keating sound familiar?)

    Just for the record, there is nothing special about Monster cable. At the bottom of their line-up it sounds, and is constructed, just as bad as the cheapest stuff made by child-labor in China. At the high-end it is just as good as the stuff made at any of a number of US mom & pop cable manufacturers who charge a fraction of the cost for exactly the same thing. As a matter of fact, that's all Monster is, just re-branded to sell at a premium - same goes for AudioQuest, Nordost, Kimber and yes, even Tributaries. High end cables sound slightly different from each other over long runs and with very sensitive equipment. But they don't sound better, just different from the other guys. This is therefore no reason to pay for the name. Monster knows this and that is why they are on the prowl for "new markets". In this economy, when people aren't buying into their marketing nonsense, that means Monsters Inc., and the Cookie Monster. And when Sesame Street is dead and buried, they'll sue Blue Jeans for cables that "appear to be violating copyright."

    This is the system - it works for a few people, and hurts most. Welcome. Blue pill, anyone?

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    I can't belive we are commenting on a thread that is 3 years old, and brought back from the dead by a member with 1 post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
    I can't belive we are commenting on a thread that is 3 years old, and brought back from the dead by a member with 1 post.
    Me neither, but I love it when the pitchforks and torches come out, and I do detest Noel Lee and his corporate ethics.

    It just makes me feel better.
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    ahhhh. this is america. The hate never dies.

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    There is this car, it's a nice car. Comes with a Bose Premium sound system, damn I'd sure hate to hear their non-premium version since the premium one sucks big time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundbeef
    I can't belive we are commenting on a thread that is 3 years old, and brought back from the dead by a member with 1 post.
    I thought the same thing myself at first... but this is actually a fairly interesting topic...

    Reviving a 'which amp to buy for $300?' thread from 3 years ago, by a poster with only 1 post, is what usually happens and is pretty stupid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajani
    I thought the same thing myself at first... but this is actually a fairly interesting topic...

    Reviving a 'which amp to buy for $300?' thread from 3 years ago, by a poster with only 1 post, is what usually happens and is pretty stupid...
    thanks ajani, and just so it stays entertaining:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38CRLVLjOhM

    I'm not a purveyor of the L.O.L phenomenon, but i this case it was true.

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