Quote Originally Posted by klif570
As they say, lies, damn lies and statistics.. Sometimes they are far from the truth.
Yes, and sometimes they are the truth, and you have folks in denial. Every source I read pointed to 20%+ poverty rate, they all can't be lies right?


Claiming benefits doesn't really mean that people live in poverty. It's different in every country, but even if you have a minimum-average salary you are in many cases still entitled to benefits in the UK. Could they define poverty I wonder? One might be poor because he doesn't have a TV, or one might be poor because he/she is a single parent and can't work.
The reasons one is poor is pretty irrelevant in this discussion. The with 20% of the population in poverty is.



And here it says it's 23.8%..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty...ther_countries

I know you gotta love statistics..
Wikipedia is good for static or non movement information, but when you start to quote them for stats that change from year to year, it is completely unreliable. The reliability comes when a year the stats were derived from is clearly shown. You noticed that I went directly to an online version of your local news to get my information. Wiki does not state the year those stats were from, but mine stats pretty clearly it is from 2007-2008. The 13.2% poverty rate for the US is from 2008, and here is a wiki timeline that tracks the year

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US...e_timeline.gif

1 minute or 15, the point here is that no one liked how inconvenient VHS were..and how much more DVDs had to offer, unlke Blu Ray, which only offers higher quality.
I think you missed my point. Folks do not buy products they find inconvenient, and they certainly do not buy 200 million of them world wide. Rewinding came with the turf, and frankly I never heard anyone complain about rewinding a tape since it was done automatically. The two main reasons I heard for moving to the new format was better quality, and smaller footprint when stored.

I was emphasising the point there. And in fact, compared to DVDs they did feel like taking 15 bloody minutes..and then you find out you just rewinded the wrong side haha...
I do not understand this, but okay. I didn't know there is a wrong side on VHS, the cartridge only had one way to fit in the player.


Fair enough, I can compare Lovefilm with over 60.000 DVDs and over 1000 Blu Ray..
Don't be ridiculous. 60,000 DVD titles are not active anywhere on this planet. According to my NDP report that covers world wide disc sales, only the last 100 released titles are active and generate revenue. The remaining titles basically are dormant, or selling just a small trickle of units. With Blu ray being a newer format, there are far more titles that are currently active than DVD according to my latest sales snapshot for the last quarter of 2009.

Anyway, from what I've read it seems like Blu Ray is going to conquer the States much quicker than Europe
This is par for the course for all AV formats that have been manufactured over the years, there is nothing new about this statement. DVD sales will drop quicker here, and last there, just like VHS did. VHS stayed active in Europe long after it died here in the states. DVD grew quicker in the states, and Europe was slow and last to adopt the format.