Another bit of bad news for Talkys BDA buddies

[blackraven]

Prices will be down on every thing by christmas. Company's will be wanting to move as much inventory as possible because sales are down. Just look at new cars. Sales are way down and now Toyota and GM are offering 0% financing.

I expect that we will see several sub $200 BRP's by Christmas.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

As usual Pixy can't read, and can't hold his wad(old man complex). I never said prices were NOT coming down, I said they are not going to take losses on players just to sell them and gain market share. Sharp is releasing a new player in a few months, and they are moving stock on the old stuff. There is a cycle here(pixy, I know it is hard, but pay attention brightness). A player is released at manufactured suggested price. It get's to market and sells. The manufacturer plans on releasing another player, so they discount the old player to make room on the shelves for new players, and to reduce inventory. This is how you are going to see price reductions. You are not going to see bluray prices at the level of DVD prices anytime soon. If you remember last year, bluray player prices dropped for christmas, and afterwards returned to full price. You are going to see that again this year.

In spite of what is going on in the economy right now, bluray players are still flying off the shelves. During the 2001-2003 downturn, there were more DVD players sold than in all of the previous years combined.

Pixie, brighten up man(and mature up as well) are you really that stupid to believe its bad news for the BDA when a player sells, and they make a profit? Use what functioning part of the brain you have!

[pixelthis]

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As usual Pixy can't read, and can't hold his wad(old man complex). I never said prices were NOT coming down, I said they are not going to take losses on players just to sell them and gain market share. Sharp is releasing a new player in a few months, and they are moving stock on the old stuff. There is a cycle here(pixy, I know it is hard, but pay attention brightness). A player is released at manufactured suggested price. It get's to market and sells. The manufacturer plans on releasing another player, so they discount the old player to make room on the shelves for new players, and to reduce inventory. This is how you are going to see price reductions. You are not going to see bluray prices at the level of DVD prices anytime soon. If you remember last year, bluray player prices dropped for christmas, and afterwards returned to full price. You are going to see that again this year.

This is a NEW model, with a "fast load " feature.
Pay attention please.
AND YES in the top tier of products SHARP is at the bottom, but its still a name brand

In spite of what is going on in the economy right now, bluray players are still flying off the shelves. During the 2001-2003 downturn, there were more DVD players sold than in all of the previous years combined.

WHICH aint saying much, considering how many were sold in all previous years combined

Pixie, brighten up man(and mature up as well) are you really that stupid to believe its bad news for the BDA when a player sells, and they make a profit? Use what functioning part of the brain you have!

Didnt say it was.
BUT FROM WHAT YOU TELL on this site , they were hoping for several years of elevated prices.
AND its aint happening

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

[QUOTE=pixelthis]

This is a NEW model, with a "fast load " feature.
Pay attention please.
AND YES in the top tier of products SHARP is at the bottom, but its still a name brand

They haven't had a new model in months pixie, so it was not a "new" model in terms of product cycle. Considering most manufacturers are releasing two generation per year, this product is rather old. And considering Sharp is releasing a new player in just months, this is old stock. Its fast load is still quite slow next to a PS3. Its fast loading until you get to Java, and then the player will behave just like all of the others. The player was released in June, it doesn't do Dts MA(pass through or decode), and its a profile 1.1 player. Mostly all of the 1.0 players(like your S300) are being heavily discounted as the profile 1.1 players(even the cheapies) hit the market, and a series of profile 2.0 players start to proliferate as well. The players regardless of profile, that cannot either decode or pass Dts MA are also being heavily discounted as players that can hit the market. Lot's of reason for this player being discounted for a quick sell. Most folks would not mention Sharp in the same company as Pioneer, Sony, or Panasonic. Sharp is pretty well known, but not what I would call a "brand" name company.

WHICH aint saying much, considering how many were sold in all previous years combined

Pixie, there were over ten million players sold from 1997 to 2001. Ten million players plus is no small number to accomplish is two years during an economic downturn.

Didnt say it was.
BUT FROM WHAT YOU TELL on this site , they were hoping for several years of elevated prices.
AND its aint happening

Its the way you seem to interpret everything pixie, no context, no ability to understand the detail. You apparently were sleeping during the early years of DVD, and you totally are missing the point of what I am saying here. What I said was the manufacturers are not going to push prices down so they lose profit to gain market share like Toshiba did. I said(and rather clearly) that prices will drop naturally as new product hits the shelves. I said you are not going to see player prices drop until manufacturers realize manufacturing efficiencies, which has clearly happening with Sony and Panasonic players. Sony was able to cut prices BEFORE players hit the street, not after they have been there for months. That is a clear sign of efficiencies realized during production. as Sony is still making a nice profit on each player.

You seem to have a hard time quoting things I have said. Perhaps you should drop the angry filters, and start using some that allow you to see detail, and not just what you want to see.

[pixelthis]

[QUOTE=Sir Terrence the Terrible]

They haven't had a new model in months pixie, so it was not a "new" model in terms of product cycle. Considering most manufacturers are releasing two generation per year, this product is rather old. And considering Sharp is releasing a new player in just months, this is old stock. Its fast load is still quite slow next to a PS3. Its fast loading until you get to Java, and then the player will behave just like all of the others. The player was released in June, it doesn't do Dts MA(pass through or decode), and its a profile 1.1 player. Mostly all of the 1.0 players(like your S300) are being heavily discounted as the profile 1.1 players(even the cheapies) hit the market, and a series of profile 2.0 players start to proliferate as well. The players regardless of profile, that cannot either decode or pass Dts MA are also being heavily discounted as players that can hit the market. Lot's of reason for this player being discounted for a quick sell. Most folks would not mention Sharp in the same company as Pioneer, Sony, or Panasonic. Sharp is pretty well known, but not what I would call a "brand" name company.



Pixie, there were over ten million players sold from 1997 to 2001. Ten million players plus is no small number to accomplish is two years during an economic downturn.




Its the way you seem to interpret everything pixie, no context, no ability to understand the detail. You apparently were sleeping during the early years of DVD, and you totally are missing the point of what I am saying here. What I said was the manufacturers are not going to push prices down so they lose profit to gain market share like Toshiba did. I said(and rather clearly) that prices will drop naturally as new product hits the shelves. I said you are not going to see player prices drop until manufacturers realize manufacturing efficiencies, which has clearly happening with Sony and Panasonic players. Sony was able to cut prices BEFORE players hit the street, not after they have been there for months. That is a clear sign of efficiencies realized during production. as Sony is still making a nice profit on each player.

You seem to have a hard time quoting things I have said. Perhaps you should drop the angry filters, and start using some that allow you to see detail, and not just what you want to see.

PREHAPS you should remember what you said and not what you claim you said.
AND you have said repeatedly that you and your BDA buddies want the price of blu players to stay "high" for awhile.
Which aint gonna happen.
And no I wasnt "asleep" during the early days of DVD, paid 450
for a Panny with SVHS only and no progressive.
But that was then, DVD was such an advance over everything
available at the time...
Blu is more of an evolution, realy, people can wait it out, and with teh current unpleasantness they will , mostly.
One good thing about BLU, once you get it in the house you are sold for life, wouldn't think of watching a movie on anything else, be it Blu or
a regular DVD.
Peeps thinking of "getting by" with an upconverter are missing out, really.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

[QUOTE=pixelthis][QUOTE=Sir Terrence the Terrible]

PREHAPS you should remember what you said and not what you claim you said.
AND you have said repeatedly that you and your BDA buddies want the price of blu players to stay "high" for awhile.
Which aint gonna happen.
And no I wasnt "asleep" during the early days of DVD, paid 450
for a Panny with SVHS only and no progressive.
But that was then, DVD was such an advance over everything
available at the time...
Blu is more of an evolution, realy, people can wait it out, and with teh current unpleasantness they will , mostly.
One good thing about BLU, once you get it in the house you are sold for life, wouldn't think of watching a movie on anything else, be it Blu or
a regular DVD.
Peeps thinking of "getting by" with an upconverter are missing out, really.

A. You cannot read, and you cannot remember a quote to save your miserable empty life.
B. I never said ME and my BUDDIES at the BDA anything, those are your words, not mine.
C. Obviously nobody was sitting around waiting anything out. Bluray players are selling like hotcakes, and the proof earlier this year was in the fact there were so many backorders, and they couldn't keep players on the shelves.
D. During recessions, people buy more disc and players as they tend to spend on home entertainment, and less on high ticket items and vacations. There is a historical presedence on this.
E. Prices on players are falling naturally, not because the public is not buying them. Get your facts straight before blowing off your big fat mouth.
F. Your behavior on this board is truely immature and childish. Stop running around trying to create arguements that make you look more stupid than you actually look in person.

[pixelthis]

[QUOTE=Sir Terrence the Terrible][QUOTE=pixelthis]

A. You cannot read, and you cannot remember a quote to save your miserable empty life.
B. I never said ME and my BUDDIES at the BDA anything, those are your words, not mine.
C. Obviously nobody was sitting around waiting anything out. Bluray players are selling like hotcakes, and the proof earlier this year was in the fact there were so many backorders, and they couldn't keep players on the shelves.
D. During recessions, people buy more disc and players as they tend to spend on home entertainment, and less on high ticket items and vacations. There is a historical presedence on this.
E. Prices on players are falling naturally, not because the public is not buying them. Get your facts straight before blowing off your big fat mouth.
F. Your behavior on this board is truely immature and childish. Stop running around trying to create arguements that make you look more stupid than you actually look in person.

That is not EXACTLY what you said, but that was the gist of it.
I said that players would go down in price in a year, year and a half at most, you said it was the idea of the BDA that they would keep player prices high for awhile, not do what happened to DVD(never mind that that took a DECADE)
GEE, I am on your side and I get nothing but insults.
If this is the way you treat people who basically agree with you then
I can see why everybody argues with you.
BUT deny It all you want, you have stated as much several times.

[E-Stat]

PREHAPS you should remember what you said and not what you claim you said.

Perhaps you might illustrate your point with direct quotes.

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[pixelthis]

Perhaps you might illustrate your point with direct quotes.

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SO now i gotta wander this site to find a linky to what this turd said?
OH, OKAY.
When I have time.