Another bit of bad news for Talkys BDA buddies

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They haven't had a new model in months pixie, so it was not a "new" model in terms of product cycle. Considering most manufacturers are releasing two generation per year, this product is rather old. And considering Sharp is releasing a new player in just months, this is old stock. Its fast load is still quite slow next to a PS3. Its fast loading until you get to Java, and then the player will behave just like all of the others. The player was released in June, it doesn't do Dts MA(pass through or decode), and its a profile 1.1 player. Mostly all of the 1.0 players(like your S300) are being heavily discounted as the profile 1.1 players(even the cheapies) hit the market, and a series of profile 2.0 players start to proliferate as well. The players regardless of profile, that cannot either decode or pass Dts MA are also being heavily discounted as players that can hit the market. Lot's of reason for this player being discounted for a quick sell. Most folks would not mention Sharp in the same company as Pioneer, Sony, or Panasonic. Sharp is pretty well known, but not what I would call a "brand" name company.



Pixie, there were over ten million players sold from 1997 to 2001. Ten million players plus is no small number to accomplish is two years during an economic downturn.




Its the way you seem to interpret everything pixie, no context, no ability to understand the detail. You apparently were sleeping during the early years of DVD, and you totally are missing the point of what I am saying here. What I said was the manufacturers are not going to push prices down so they lose profit to gain market share like Toshiba did. I said(and rather clearly) that prices will drop naturally as new product hits the shelves. I said you are not going to see player prices drop until manufacturers realize manufacturing efficiencies, which has clearly happening with Sony and Panasonic players. Sony was able to cut prices BEFORE players hit the street, not after they have been there for months. That is a clear sign of efficiencies realized during production. as Sony is still making a nice profit on each player.

You seem to have a hard time quoting things I have said. Perhaps you should drop the angry filters, and start using some that allow you to see detail, and not just what you want to see.

PREHAPS you should remember what you said and not what you claim you said.
AND you have said repeatedly that you and your BDA buddies want the price of blu players to stay "high" for awhile.
Which aint gonna happen.
And no I wasnt "asleep" during the early days of DVD, paid 450
for a Panny with SVHS only and no progressive.
But that was then, DVD was such an advance over everything
available at the time...
Blu is more of an evolution, realy, people can wait it out, and with teh current unpleasantness they will , mostly.
One good thing about BLU, once you get it in the house you are sold for life, wouldn't think of watching a movie on anything else, be it Blu or
a regular DVD.
Peeps thinking of "getting by" with an upconverter are missing out, really.

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PREHAPS you should remember what you said and not what you claim you said.
AND you have said repeatedly that you and your BDA buddies want the price of blu players to stay "high" for awhile.
Which aint gonna happen.
And no I wasnt "asleep" during the early days of DVD, paid 450
for a Panny with SVHS only and no progressive.
But that was then, DVD was such an advance over everything
available at the time...
Blu is more of an evolution, realy, people can wait it out, and with teh current unpleasantness they will , mostly.
One good thing about BLU, once you get it in the house you are sold for life, wouldn't think of watching a movie on anything else, be it Blu or
a regular DVD.
Peeps thinking of "getting by" with an upconverter are missing out, really.

A. You cannot read, and you cannot remember a quote to save your miserable empty life.
B. I never said ME and my BUDDIES at the BDA anything, those are your words, not mine.
C. Obviously nobody was sitting around waiting anything out. Bluray players are selling like hotcakes, and the proof earlier this year was in the fact there were so many backorders, and they couldn't keep players on the shelves.
D. During recessions, people buy more disc and players as they tend to spend on home entertainment, and less on high ticket items and vacations. There is a historical presedence on this.
E. Prices on players are falling naturally, not because the public is not buying them. Get your facts straight before blowing off your big fat mouth.
F. Your behavior on this board is truely immature and childish. Stop running around trying to create arguements that make you look more stupid than you actually look in person.

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A. You cannot read, and you cannot remember a quote to save your miserable empty life.
B. I never said ME and my BUDDIES at the BDA anything, those are your words, not mine.
C. Obviously nobody was sitting around waiting anything out. Bluray players are selling like hotcakes, and the proof earlier this year was in the fact there were so many backorders, and they couldn't keep players on the shelves.
D. During recessions, people buy more disc and players as they tend to spend on home entertainment, and less on high ticket items and vacations. There is a historical presedence on this.
E. Prices on players are falling naturally, not because the public is not buying them. Get your facts straight before blowing off your big fat mouth.
F. Your behavior on this board is truely immature and childish. Stop running around trying to create arguements that make you look more stupid than you actually look in person.

That is not EXACTLY what you said, but that was the gist of it.
I said that players would go down in price in a year, year and a half at most, you said it was the idea of the BDA that they would keep player prices high for awhile, not do what happened to DVD(never mind that that took a DECADE)
GEE, I am on your side and I get nothing but insults.
If this is the way you treat people who basically agree with you then
I can see why everybody argues with you.
BUT deny It all you want, you have stated as much several times.

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HERES A couple of quotes from this thread;

Sylvania Bluray Player $279 @ Sears.


Don't hold your breath on this one Smoke. The members of the BDA saw what the Chinese did to the DVD format, so they are keeping them at bay right now. The Chinese do not like to pay for liscensing of technology, so with DVD they generally didn't, and it gave them an advantage that forced the big guys out of that market(or at least from making a profit). At the last BDA meeting I attended, they were going to allow chinese manufacturers to make the players, but they were not about to allow them to liscense the technology because they know it will blow a hole in the floor if they do.


I said that the bottom of the price would fall out before the end of the year, sir talky said no, wrong as usual.
SIR TALKY said that manufacturers "wouldnt allow it", when are such types going to figure out that the free market doesnt give a rats butt
what the manufacturers want, once supply exceeds demand,

I said no such thing. What I did say is that your majors are not going to be trimming prices any time soon, and I am right about that. Everyone knew last year that Funai was going to get into the game, I said so right here on this website. I knew back then there were going to be cheaper players coming, they just weren't coming from Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Samsung, Denon, Marantz or any other major brand name. So next time you quote me(or better yet don't) git your story straight(which may be impossible for someone who pisses out of his ears). Oh and by the way, supply has not even come close to the demand. The majors are still having trouble keeping up with the demand, which is why their prices have remained higher.


And this is just one instance, he has said as much several times,
that Blu player manufacturers want to keep prices :up" for awhile.
Everybody who surfs this site knows as much

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PREHAPS you should remember what you said and not what you claim you said.

Perhaps you might illustrate your point with direct quotes.

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Perhaps you might illustrate your point with direct quotes.

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SO now i gotta wander this site to find a linky to what this turd said?
OH, OKAY.
When I have time.