3D-TV no hit with viewers

[RGA]

3D is not going anywhere

3DTV sales rise, but do owners care about the third dimension? | The Digital Home - CNET News

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

3D is not going anywhere

3DTV sales rise, but do owners care about the third dimension? | The Digital Home - CNET News

Are you really going to insult our intelligence with a nearly one year old opinion piece that manipulates data to make a point?

According to NDP, sales of 3DTV's have jumped pretty dramatically since last year. But that is not the most important measure since 3D is becoming less of a premium item, and more a standard feature on most televisions. 3D bundles of 3D movies are outselling their 2D counterparts by almost 2-1. Also sales of 3D glasses have also dramatically risen, along with 3D projector sales - all according to NDP.

So 3D may not be going anywhere in your apartment, but they are going somewhere everywhere else.

[RGA]

Please provide a website that shows a poll taken of how 3D tv buyers are "primarily" using their sets - what percentage of time they watch in 3D, how many titles they purchase in 3D in the first 3 months versus beyond 3 months etc. I'll be happy to read "evidence" and statistics by said poll industries.


"According to the international accounting and consulting firm [Deloitte], 83 percent of consumers say that 3D isn't enough to make them want to buy a new television. Moreover, 60 percent of respondents said they simply aren't willing to pay extra for a television with 3D capabilities. Just 21 percent of those surveyed said they would pay 10 percent more for a 3D television over a set that doesn't have the technology.

A requirement for 3D glasses tends to be a major issue for consumers, Deloitte found. The firm said 30 percent of respondents reported that they didn't like wearing 3D glasses. Deloitte Director Ed Moran said in a statement that the glasses are "a barrier to the multitasking that consumers engage in while watching TV, including surfing the Web, reading e-mail, talking on instant message, and reading books, newspapers, and magazines."

Deloitte's findings aren't good news for 3D television vendors. Several companies have been pushing 3D as the next step in home entertainment. Sony, for example, currently offers several 3D television sets. And earlier this week, the company released a PlayStation 3 firmware update that allows consumers to watch Blu-ray 3D films on their consoles.

The news gets worse for 3D vendors. Deloitte found that 31 percent of respondents think 3D does not "enhance their entertainment experience." Another 13 percent of those surveyed said they "get physically ill [or] uncomfortable after watching 3D programming."

There is a single silver lining in Deloitte's findings for vendors. According to the firm, 40 percent of Generation Y respondents said they would buy a 3D set that require glasses. Approximately 55 percent of those people said they would buy a 3D TV if glasses were not required.

Deloitte's survey was conducted by the Harrison Group in June and July. The survey included responses from 1,960 people between the ages of 14 and 75.

I don't see why one year makes a big difference - 3D TVs changed dramatically? Sales have increased because as the other article notes the prices dropped like a stone. If the TV's are pretty much the same price buying a 3D TV makes all the sense in the world

As one of the respondents noted to the first article I posted

"I bought a 3D set, but no glasses. The full line resolution with full motion was higher for the 3D set. To handle the 3D aspect, it had a more powerful image processor, so it also has better 2D performance.

I have no 3D content.

Also, my kids are not enthralled with 3D. We purposely avoided a 3D screening of the final Harry Potter film. So I think the kids are less impressed than you think. They had the same reaction to the 3DS from Nintendo. They found the 3D aspect distracting from the game play, and only use it with the 3D switched off. Nintendo would probably just as soon not hear that, but, oh well.

13% of people out of the 1960 people surveyed claim to get physically ill. That's not a big deal - Sony Playstation games come with a warning that some people will have seizures.

Bottom line - if you like it you like it. 3D is not going anywhere - it's backwards compatible and gives you options. But like Starbucks - it's not for everyone.

PS: - I liked the last three 3D films I saw in the theater - the 3D helped 2 of them distract me (in a good way) from the rather banal movies.

Prometheus was one of the best "Sounding" movies that I can recall as an added bonus.

[E-Stat]

Please provide a website that shows a poll taken of how 3D tv buyers are "primarily" using their sets - what percentage of time they watch in 3D, how many titles they purchase in 3D in the first 3 months versus beyond 3 months etc.

I was curious to see TV sales breakdowns for 2011 and projections for 2012 and beyond. What I found here was this:

Total 2011 televisions: 39.1 M
Total 2012 televisions: 37.1 M

Falling totals, but pretty significant shifts in 3D capable. While 3D made up only 7% of sales in 2011, the number is expected to be 15% this year.

It seems that if indeed 3D capability just becomes another standard feature, then your opening questions become less important. I would certainly like to have the capability even if only for some select movies.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

I was curious to see TV sales breakdowns for 2011 and projections for 2012 and beyond. What I found here was this:

Total 2011 televisions: 39.1 M
Total 2012 televisions: 37.1 M

Falling totals, but pretty significant shifts in 3D capable. While 3D made up only 7% of sales in 2011, the number is expected to be 15% this year.

Keep in mind, these are projections, not actual sales figures. While they are correct about flat panels sales being down from 2011, the percentage of 3D televisions sold in that figure is actually up.

It seems that if indeed 3D capability just becomes another standard feature, then your opening questions become less important. I would certainly like to have the capability even if only for some select movies.

It pretty much is becoming as standard now that namufacturers know they cannot sell it at a premium price

[E-Stat]

Keep in mind, these are projections, not actual sales figures. While they are correct about flat panels sales being down from 2011, the percentage of 3D televisions sold in that figure is actually up.

Projection only for this year that has not yet finished. Empirically, the answer was 7.5% for 2011. Do you have any data to suggest that it will more than double as the projection I posted suggests?

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Projection only for this year that has not yet finished. Empirically, the answer was 7.5% for 2011. Do you have any data to suggest that it will more than double as the projection I posted suggests?

NDP aggregates all 3D sales which includes 3DTV's, software and projectors. When 3D projectors are included in the mix, it does more than double the 7.5% from 2011. Also keep in mind, they are tracking 3D televisions only, projector sales are not included in that 7.5%. With projector prices falling like they are, their sales are really surging right now.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Please provide a website that shows a poll taken of how 3D tv buyers are "primarily" using their sets - what percentage of time they watch in 3D, how many titles they purchase in 3D in the first 3 months versus beyond 3 months etc. I'll be happy to read "evidence" and statistics by said poll industries.

Polls don't tell you anythng about sales. If you want to see how folks are using the 3D televisions and projectors, look at the sales figures for software and 3D glasses.

You can get those comprehensive sales reports from NDP, and they cost between $10,000-$100,000 per year based on the concentration of information you desire. I get my reports through Disney.


"According to the international accounting and consulting firm [Deloitte], 83 percent of consumers say that 3D isn't enough to make them want to buy a new television. Moreover, 60 percent of respondents said they simply aren't willing to pay extra for a television with 3D capabilities. Just 21 percent of those surveyed said they would pay 10 percent more for a 3D television over a set that doesn't have the technology.

A requirement for 3D glasses tends to be a major issue for consumers, Deloitte found. The firm said 30 percent of respondents reported that they didn't like wearing 3D glasses. Deloitte Director Ed Moran said in a statement that the glasses are "a barrier to the multitasking that consumers engage in while watching TV, including surfing the Web, reading e-mail, talking on instant message, and reading books, newspapers, and magazines."

Deloitte's findings aren't good news for 3D television vendors. Several companies have been pushing 3D as the next step in home entertainment. Sony, for example, currently offers several 3D television sets. And earlier this week, the company released a PlayStation 3 firmware update that allows consumers to watch Blu-ray 3D films on their consoles.

The news gets worse for 3D vendors. Deloitte found that 31 percent of respondents think 3D does not "enhance their entertainment experience." Another 13 percent of those surveyed said they "get physically ill [or] uncomfortable after watching 3D programming."

There is a single silver lining in Deloitte's findings for vendors. According to the firm, 40 percent of Generation Y respondents said they would buy a 3D set that require glasses. Approximately 55 percent of those people said they would buy a 3D TV if glasses were not required.

Deloitte's survey was conducted by the Harrison Group in June and July. The survey included responses from 1,960 people between the ages of 14 and 75.

I don't see why one year makes a big difference - 3D TVs changed dramatically? Sales have increased because as the other article notes the prices dropped like a stone. If the TV's are pretty much the same price buying a 3D TV makes all the sense in the world

As one of the respondents noted to the first article I posted

"I bought a 3D set, but no glasses. The full line resolution with full motion was higher for the 3D set. To handle the 3D aspect, it had a more powerful image processor, so it also has better 2D performance.

I have no 3D content.

Also, my kids are not enthralled with 3D. We purposely avoided a 3D screening of the final Harry Potter film. So I think the kids are less impressed than you think. They had the same reaction to the 3DS from Nintendo. They found the 3D aspect distracting from the game play, and only use it with the 3D switched off. Nintendo would probably just as soon not hear that, but, oh well.

13% of people out of the 1960 people surveyed claim to get physically ill. That's not a big deal - Sony Playstation games come with a warning that some people will have seizures.

Bottom line - if you like it you like it. 3D is not going anywhere - it's backwards compatible and gives you options. But like Starbucks - it's not for everyone.

PS: - I liked the last three 3D films I saw in the theater - the 3D helped 2 of them distract me (in a good way) from the rather banal movies.

Prometheus was one of the best "Sounding" movies that I can recall as an added bonus.[/QUOTE]

You really are quite stupid using polls instead of actual sales figures. And the polls you cite only covered 3DTV, not 3D software or projectors. According to 2nd quarter sales figures for 2012, 3DTV's are set to outpace 3D television sales of 2011. 3D projectors have outsold 2D projectors by 15% in the 2nd quarter, and the Avenger 3D movie bundle was 85% of all disc sales for the title. 3D Bundles now represent more than 50% of all disc sales when a 3D title is sold.

That is the sales facts, not some survey

[E-Stat]

According to 2nd quarter sales figures for 2012, 3DTV's are set to outpace 3D television sales of 2011.

Outpace increase, but far from meeting total sales numbers

That is the sales facts, not some survey

Of the total sales I referenced in my previous post of 37.1 M units, this data says the 3D market will be 15% this year.

If you have other data, please reference it.

[Smokey]

Of the total sales I referenced in my previous post of 37.1 M units, this data says the 3D market will be 15% this year.

Even with %15 increase which include coming holiday sales, 3-D TVs only makes %6 of total TVs in US household.

[E-Stat]

Even with %15 increase which include coming holiday sales, 3-D TVs only makes %6 of total TVs in US household.

Good point. It will take a while to roll over existing units.

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

Outpace increase, but far from meeting total sales numbers

Since we don't know what the total sales numbers are, this statement is misleading.

Of the total sales I referenced in my previous post of 37.1 M units, this data says the 3D market will be 15% this year.

If you have other data, please reference it.

NDP reports are what I use. That 15% is just one segment of the market. The other segment is 3D projectors - and they put 3D sales past your quoted 15%

[E-Stat]

Since we don't know what the total sales numbers are, this statement is misleading.

For 2012. For 2011, the answer was 7.5%

NDP reports are what I use.

Are you able to substantiate your claims with a link to data?