Which Receiver?

[BallinWithNash]

First of all, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were joking. Unless of course you think Best Buy sells High End gear. If that is the case, here is a lesson for you.

VAC=Valve Amplification Company
The CLA-1 was a Reference Pre-Amp
oh, Made in USA

Counterpoint
NPS-400 is one of the first Hybrid Amplifiers
Oh yeah, Made in USA

Odyssey Audio
Modded Stratus rivals many larger name Solid State Amps. Best $1200 you can spend
Duh'Oh, Made in USA

Sound Valves
Valves=Tubes
another one Made in USA

Synergistic Research
Hey, look at that, Made in USA and each pair of cables cost more than some of your components

David Hafler
Originally from Pensauken New Jersey
One of the innovators of DIY audio along with Heathkit and Dynaco
Bought out by Rockford then Harmon Internatinal
Originally Made in USA and was entry level gear when I bought it new.

Clearfield Speakers
Designed by Albert Von Schweikert when he worked at Counterpoint
His speakers sell from about $15k to $180k
Guess what? Made in USA

Dynaudio
Some of the best speakers in the world, right up there with Logitech
Real close to Japan but
Made in Denmark

JM Labs
Focal drivers used in many other speakers as are Dynaudio drivers
Polly vu a humma humma
Made in France - can't get this discontinued baby anymore

Now for my eese of some form cr@p
Sony yep
Denon yep
HK sure
Rotel oh well it's good eese gear

and
Mirage ah nope Canadian company


Oh, and I even have a DAC made by Audio Alchemy and sheesh....Made in USA!!!






Now bozo, it was Pixle that dissed your system, I merely added my gear to my signature today and asked if I could play "Who's is bigger?"
I never once, until now, tried to insult your gear!

All right Hyfi i admit defeat to you ... you kicked my @@S ... ill come more prepared next time haha

[Hyfi]

All right Hyfi i admit defeat to you ... you kicked my @@S ... ill come more prepared next time haha

Welcome and good luck with whichever receiver you pick.

[BallinWithNash]

thank you

[Jack in Wilmington]

Listen im not here to make friends he dissed my system so i told him what I thought of his

I'm not here to take sides. But I believe in post number 7, you threw the first stone. Before that Pix was just giving you his opinion on the two receivers you had asked about. Don't take being called a "newbie" as an insult. It is just a point of fact. We were all newbies at one time or another. If you get the label of an "Audio Bully" nobody will want to play with you.

[BallinWithNash]

Do i care what you believe? and Did i ask for your opinion? .... and i consider myself more then a newbie

[Jack in Wilmington]

Do i care what you believe? and Did i ask for your opinion? .... and i consider myself more then a newbie

As a matter of fact you did ask my opinion and everyone elses by stating your question. If you don't like the answers that's too bad. You came to this forum for advice, if we hurt your precious little feelings.............. Get over it.

[Hyfi]

Do i care what you believe? and Did i ask for your opinion? .... and i consider myself more then a newbie

Don't expect any further help from me and probably the rest of the folks here.

And by the way, both the Denon and Yamaha receivers are both Japanese CRAP! Why don't you look for some real gear to go with your High End JBLs? What a joke. If you didn't get it this time, I just dissed your gear.

Time to open mouth and insert other foot. See ya.

[BallinWithNash]

alright ... i got my @ss kicked by everyone ... my bad ... sorry for my "jack@ssness"... i will appreciate any further help ... sorry and thanks

[pixelthis]

alright ... i got my @ss kicked by everyone ... my bad ... sorry for my "jack@ssness"... i will appreciate any further help ... sorry and thanks

Its alright to have crappy gear, just dont brag about it.
And some of your stuff is rather "decent".
The point is that I am broke and have around six grand of gear (why I am broke, probaby).
The pyles and jbls are like blunt force instruments, B&W and velodyne a little more precise.
The cheapest B&W kills any JBL, POLK, etc.

[BallinWithNash]

"why i am broke probably hahaha" .... to my opinion the two best pieces of gear to the ear i have are my Crown amp and my Polk RT35's ... i was very impresses with these cheap crappy little speakers ... and i want to eventually get Dynaudio or B&W's ... just not in the price range now

[BallinWithNash]

Pixel on your B&W's did you Bi-Wire them? I have never personally tried bi-wiring but i have read that there isn't really that much of an advantage of doing it.

[pixelthis]

Pixel on your B&W's did you Bi-Wire them? I have never personally tried bi-wiring but i have read that there isn't really that much of an advantage of doing it.

A waste of time, really.
My first Denon HT type receiver was designed with that in mind, at that time I had just purchased my first Beemers, 305s2 floorstanders.
AT least I couldnt tell any diff, but the Brits are very up on this.
All it does is bypass your xover, if you have a crappy xover (or a broken one) it might make a difference

[BallinWithNash]

Ok, thank you. And yes my Denon is designed for that but im not using it and was just wondering if you were ... thanks again

[Hyfi]

A waste of time, really.

Not a waste of time if done properly. You shouldn't biwire with a receiver anyway, that is the waste. If your going to do it, you use a pre amp and two(2) amps, different amps. You run the highs with an amp that excels in midrange and highs. You run the bottom end with an amp that compliments lows.

Using a biwire cable and the same receiver/amp on the other end is useless since your sending the same signal which the speaker does not care if split or not, it's still just the same signal.

[markw]

Not a waste of time if done properly. You shouldn't biwire with a receiver anyway, that is the waste. If your going to do it, you use a pre amp and two(2) amps, different amps. You run the highs with an amp that excels in midrange and highs. You run the bottom end with an amp that compliments lows.

What you're describing is not bi-wiring. It''s bi-amping, and it's best accomplished by using an active crossover between the preamp and the power amps.

Using a biwire cable and the same receiver/amp on the other end is useless since your sending the same signal which the speaker does not care if split or not, it's still just the same signal.

No argument there.

[Worf101]

In the words of that great 20th Century philosopher Rodney King...

"Can't we all just get along?"

I guess the answer's a resounding NO!

Nein
Nyet
Never
Nada

Yipes...

Da Worfster

[pixelthis]

In the words of that great 20th Century philosopher Rodney King...

"Can't we all just get along?"

I guess the answer's a resounding NO!

Nein
Nyet
Never
Nada

Yipes...

Da Worfster

Wouldnt have 100,000 nukes on the planet iffen we could.

[GMichael]

How did I miss this thread? Holy meltdown Batman.
Pixy, are you OK? Where are your usual pointed comments? How dare you come here and be all nice and helpful. What is this forum coming to?

[Luvin Da Blues]

How did I miss this thread? Holy meltdown Batman.
Pixy, are you OK? Where are your usual pointed comments? How dare you come here and be all nice and helpful. What is this forum coming to?

It's a setup...and I'm not biting.

Jokin' Pix.....I, for one, get a kick outta yer posts.

[pixelthis]

How did I miss this thread? Holy meltdown Batman.
Pixy, are you OK? Where are your usual pointed comments? How dare you come here and be all nice and helpful. What is this forum coming to?

WHY I really dont know what you mean, I mean, me unpleasant?
Pish tosh!
Actually, beleive it or not, I actually got another greenie!
Makes two.
How about that?
Anyway doc says the meds wear off soon.

[Hyfi]

What you're describing is not bi-wiring. It''s bi-amping, and it's best accomplished by using an active crossover between the preamp and the power amps.

True, but that is the only real way bi-wiring has much promise. Otherwise, you may want to use two separate amps from an HT receiver but use different gauge wire for top and bottom.

Most bi-wire cables are two amp connections of two wires each and split off into four leads for the speakers. All this does is eliminate the jumpers, nothing more.

[GMichael]

WHY I really dont know what you mean, I mean, me unpleasant?
Pish tosh!
Actually, beleive it or not, I actually got another greenie!
Makes two.
How about that?
Anyway doc says the meds wear off soon.

I'm so confused.

[markw]

True, but that is the only real way bi-wiring has much promise. Otherwise, you may want to use two separate amps from an HT receiver but use different gauge wire for top and bottom.

Most bi-wire cables are two amp connections of two wires each and split off into four leads for the speakers. All this does is eliminate the jumpers, nothing more.

Bi-WIRING and bi-AMPING are two distinctly different issues. Isn't about time you learned some of the basic terminology and used it properly instead of confusing newbies?

http://www.audioholics.com/education...ng-vs-biwiring

[Hyfi]

Bi-WIRING and bi-AMPING are two distinctly different issues. Isn't about time you learned some of the basic terminology and used it properly instead of confusing newbies?

http://www.audioholics.com/education...ng-vs-biwiring

My bad, I thought this guy wasn't a newbie.

[BallinWithNash]

yes i know the difference between biwiring and biamping and i would use my marantz for the highs and denon for the lows ... but im not going to do it because I have heard most people say there isn't a noticeable difference