Which Receiver?

[BallinWithNash]

Denon AVR-1609 or Yamaha RX-V665?
The Denon seems like a much better value and more money in my pocket is definitely a good thing. Let's see what you guys think.

[pixelthis]

Denon AVR-1609 or Yamaha RX-V665?
The Denon seems like a much better value and more money in my pocket is definitely a good thing. Let's see what you guys think.

The Denon is a waste of time.
It only has two HDMI INPUTS, which means you will run out fast.
But most importantly it lacks the new codecs, its feature set is obsolete, which means its a starter receiver, which you already have. A waste of time.
The yamaha is twice as expensive (499 at Vanns) but has teh latest codecs and
4 HDMI inputs, two more than the Denon.
The Denon is cheaper because you get a receiver from the past, my four year old receiver has everything it has.
Get the Yammy, at five hundred its a bargain.

[Worf101]

The Denon is a waste of time.
It only has two HDMI INPUTS, which means you will run out fast.
But most importantly it lacks the new codecs, its feature set is obsolete, which means its a starter receiver, which you already have. A waste of time.
The yamaha is twice as expensive (499 at Vanns) but has teh latest codecs and
4 HDMI inputs, two more than the Denon.
The Denon is cheaper because you get a receiver from the past, my four year old receiver has everything it has.
Get the Yammy, at five hundred its a bargain.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR PIXIE?

LOL, good informative poste mate.

Da Worfster

[BallinWithNash]

The Denon is a waste of time.
It only has two HDMI INPUTS, which means you will run out fast.
But most importantly it lacks the new codecs, its feature set is obsolete, which means its a starter receiver, which you already have. A waste of time.
The yamaha is twice as expensive (499 at Vanns) but has teh latest codecs and
4 HDMI inputs, two more than the Denon.
The Denon is cheaper because you get a receiver from the past, my four year old receiver has everything it has.
Get the Yammy, at five hundred its a bargain.

Ok, i have found a Denon AVR-1709 for $217 ... it has more HDMI inputs ... is this price to good to be true? should i still go with the Yamaha?

[blackraven]

I would buy this Onkyo TX SR606. It will beat the hell out of the Denon and Yammy and its a steal at this sale price of $349.

[url]http://shop2.frys.com/product/5586420[/url

Here's another link http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_product_details.jsp?cid=59223&c=0905Froogle&b=Onkyo_TX-SR606+Black

http://itemlistings.ebay.com/sdcsrp?fl=280350346451&product=Onkyo%20TX-SR606&sconstraints=PriceMin.Value%3D303%26PriceMax.Value %3D599

[pixelthis]

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR PIXIE?

LOL, good informative poste mate.

Da Worfster

Thanks.
A lot of "newbies" breeze through here with the same question, which receiver,
and we're supposed to pick one outta every receiver in the world.
This guy has narrowed it down to two, for some reason he likes these.
And for the extra money the Yammy has the Denon beat.
And this is teh real pixie, my DR Jeckyl juice is on backorder.

[BallinWithNash]

Thanks.
A lot of "newbies" breeze through here with the same question, which receiver,
and we're supposed to pick one outta every receiver in the world.
This guy has narrowed it down to two, for some reason he likes these.
And for the extra money the Yammy has the Denon beat.
And this is teh real pixie, my DR Jeckyl juice is on backorder.

First, I love Denon they have some of the most reliable receivers I have ever used and the Yamaha seemed like a good price ... Call me a newbie ... but i dont really care because my system makes yours look like child's play haha

[02audionoob]

First, I love Denon they have some of the most reliable receivers I have ever used and the Yamaha seemed like a good price ... Call me a newbie ... but i dont really care because my system makes yours look like child's play haha

What do you have that makes anyone here's system look like child's play? I'm not seeing it.

[pixelthis]

First, I love Denon they have some of the most reliable receivers I have ever used and the Yamaha seemed like a good price ... Call me a newbie ... but i dont really care because my system makes yours look like child's play haha

A 32" veiwsonic is supposed to impress me? My set is 42" 1080p.
And the rest of your stuff is either low rent or old
Pyle? PYLE? JBL??POLK?
Spare me, please, I don't need JECKYL JUICE to tear into those salvation army rejects
of yours.
My receiver was 1200 bucks four years ago, its about the tenth one I have owned.
I guess you have never heard of Integra, that is why I am giving you advice.
And every Denon I have had has cut off the highs.
Even the one I bought in the mid eighties, their top of the line (two channel, no HT yet)
The equivalent of 1500 or so today, and it too cut off the highs.
Of course with the speakers you have you will hardly notice.

[BallinWithNash]

the speakers I have JBL Studio Monitors that is the cleanest speaker you will ever hear music come out of and both of my Crown amps kick any of yours ass and my marantz please you should give up and what your velodyne sub vs. my two 15" Pyle's each powered by over 550W ... just stop talking ... and my two polks kick the ass out of your rears

[02audionoob]

This reminds me of that segment on SNL Weekend Update where Seth and Amy say...

Really!?!

[BadAssJazz]

How did this thread devolve into a "dac" measuring contest?

[Luvin Da Blues]

the speakers I have JBL Studio Monitors that is the cleanest speaker you will ever hear music come out of and both of my Crown amps kick any of yours ass and my marantz please you should give up and what your velodyne sub vs. my two 15" Pyle's each powered by over 550W ... just stop talking ... and my two polks kick the ass out of your rears

Someone needs to listen to some "real" gear. Havin' lots of mediocre gear doesn't make it hi-end.

[BallinWithNash]

How did this thread devolve into a "dac" measuring contest?

that guy called me a newbie and pretty much said my stuff is like **** that is pretty much how it started and BadAss im very jealous of your onkyo receiver.

[BallinWithNash]

Someone needs to listen to some "real" gear. Havin' lots of mediocre gear doesn't make it hi-end.

Those JBL Studio Monitors mediocre ... you must be kidding me?

[Hyfi]

I just added my gear to my signature.

Can I play too?

[BallinWithNash]

yes join the fun ... because it really is just to what sounds good to your ear ... but c'mon its fun arguing about it

[Hyfi]

yes join the fun ... because it really is just to what sounds good to your ear ... but c'mon its fun arguing about it

I may not fit in, some of my gear is actually considered High End.

[BallinWithNash]

I may not fit in, some of my gear is actually considered High End.

I have never even heard of some of those brands what is it cheap Japanese ****?

[Luvin Da Blues]

I have never even heard of some of those brands what is it cheap Japanese ****?

WOW!!!!!

How to win friends and influence people. What an arrogant little Pr**k.

[BallinWithNash]

WOW!!!!!

How to win friends and influence people. What an arrogant little Pr**k.

Listen im not here to make friends he dissed my system so i told him what I thought of his

[02audionoob]

How did this thread devolve into a "dac" measuring contest?

I don't even have a dac, but that's another story.

[nightflier]

I think it's time to grab the popcorn and get comfy.

Nash18posts vs. Pix caught my eye, but that was only the intro, I think....

[Woochifer]

FWIW, I saw the equivalent to the Denon AVR-1609 selling for $170 at Costco yesterday.

It's on closeout, but it lacks audio support for DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, and multichannel PCM via HDMI. Not exactly a good unit for moving forward if you ever plan on upgrading to Blu-ray, which supports all those formats. Same thing goes for the AVR-1709. There's a reason why those receivers have been so drastically marked down.

If you're deadset on Denon, the AVR-1610 is now out and it includes support for the high res audio formats. But, your price will probably be closer to the $380 list price than under $200.

Listen im not here to make friends he dissed my system so i told him what I thought of his

BFD

Calling Hafler, Von Schweikert, and Dynaudio gear "cheap Japanese ****" ain't the outcome of "thought" ...

[Hyfi]

I have never even heard of some of those brands what is it cheap Japanese ****?

First of all, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were joking. Unless of course you think Best Buy sells High End gear. If that is the case, here is a lesson for you.

VAC=Valve Amplification Company
The CLA-1 was a Reference Pre-Amp
oh, Made in USA

Counterpoint
NPS-400 is one of the first Hybrid Amplifiers
Oh yeah, Made in USA

Odyssey Audio
Modded Stratus rivals many larger name Solid State Amps. Best $1200 you can spend
Duh'Oh, Made in USA

Sound Valves
Valves=Tubes
another one Made in USA

Synergistic Research
Hey, look at that, Made in USA and each pair of cables cost more than some of your components

David Hafler
Originally from Pensauken New Jersey
One of the innovators of DIY audio along with Heathkit and Dynaco
Bought out by Rockford then Harmon Internatinal
Originally Made in USA and was entry level gear when I bought it new.

Clearfield Speakers
Designed by Albert Von Schweikert when he worked at Counterpoint
His speakers sell from about $15k to $180k
Guess what? Made in USA

Dynaudio
Some of the best speakers in the world, right up there with Logitech
Real close to Japan but
Made in Denmark

JM Labs
Focal drivers used in many other speakers as are Dynaudio drivers
Polly vu a humma humma
Made in France - can't get this discontinued baby anymore

Now for my eese of some form cr@p
Sony yep
Denon yep
HK sure
Rotel oh well it's good eese gear

and
Mirage ah nope Canadian company


Oh, and I even have a DAC made by Audio Alchemy and sheesh....Made in USA!!!

Listen im not here to make friends he dissed my system so i told him what I thought of his

Now bozo, it was Pixle that dissed your system, I merely added my gear to my signature today and asked if I could play "Who's is bigger?"
I never once, until now, tried to insult your gear!