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    DTS? Dolby this that and another thing?

    Can someone explain the differences to a lay person? DTS? Dolby HD and the other options? DTS NEO? Very confusing.

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    DTS and Dolby are both companies who do encoding for movies and at least with Dolby a few other areas of broadcasting. DTS-MA (MA for Master Audio) & Dolby Tru-HD are found on the Blu-ray format and after decoding are supposed to be the same as the original master soundtrack or sometimes referred to as "lossless" because nothing is lost, it's the same as the original. DTS and Dolby both had 5.1 formats on DVD, sometimes even 6 or 7.1. Each have other sound options like your mention NEO6 but I'd have to look them up to see what all they do. DTS & Dolby both have informative websites.

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    I believe NEO6 is a DTS version of PLXII. It derives 5.1 channels of sound from original two channel input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfalls View Post
    I believe NEO6 is a DTS version of PLXII. It derives 5.1 channels of sound from original two channel input.
    Neo6 actually creates 6 channels from 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Neo6 actually creates 6 channels from 2.
    That would be akin to alchemy, creating gold from lead.

    I'd say "simulates" more channels in order to keep all available channels busy would be a more appropiate description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markw View Post
    That would be akin to alchemy, creating gold from lead.

    I'd say "simulates" more channels in order to keep all available channels busy would be a more appropiate description.
    I don't think your analogy is quite correct here. Gold and lead are too different types metals. Your analogy changes one to another, and that is not what Neo6 does. Neo6 takes the phase and frequency of signals already in the left channel, cancels them out of that channel, and steers them to the left side channel. It is not transforming anything from one thing to the next, it is just moving what is already there - thereby creating another channel.

    Creation

    The action or process of bringing something into existence: "job creation".

    Simulate

    Imitate the appearance or character of

    I would say that Neo6 is more like creation than it is an imitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Neo6 actually creates 6 channels from 2.
    DUH! Second mistake I've made in my lifetime. A divorce remedied the first. Thanks for correcting the second:-)

    Sit T, after spending 44yrs in this hobby and 12yrs in the industry your assertions ring true to me. I don't always agree with your delivery, but the information makes sense. Some arguments against appear to be for the sake of arguing. With the same points going round and round, I'm getting dizzy. Please! Sombody! Stop the madness!

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    Sorry, the "Stop the Madness" rant is for the "New Setup Doesn't Sound the Way it Should". Got my thread confused. Dam#, third mistake! Better stop while I'm ahead. Does it count if you correct yourself??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    DTS and Dolby are both companies who do encoding for movies and at least with Dolby a few other areas of broadcasting. DTS-MA (MA for Master Audio) & Dolby Tru-HD are found on the Blu-ray format and after decoding are supposed to be the same as the original master soundtrack or sometimes referred to as "lossless" because nothing is lost, it's the same as the original. DTS and Dolby both had 5.1 formats on DVD, sometimes even 6 or 7.1. Each have other sound options like your mention NEO6 but I'd have to look them up to see what all they do. DTS & Dolby both have informative websites.
    Mr. P, Neither Dolby nor DTS encodes anything any more. They sell professional encoders/decoders and that is it.
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    Don't they still create the encoding/decoding programs or formats, whatever the correct term might be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Terrence the Terrible View Post
    Mr. P, Neither Dolby nor DTS encodes anything any more. They sell professional encoders/decoders and that is it.

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    Ok fellas,

    I need some help making my final decision on a receiver. I can get an Onkyo 717 for about $550. Or I can get a Marantz SR5007 for $850. I'll be using the system mainly for watching movies. Which route do you think I should go?

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    The Onkyo is a good buy. I have a 515 and after firmware I still occasionally have to unplug it to reset to get the video to pass again. Even at that I don't think the difference would be worth $300.00. The Marantz is a good receiver just trying to put myself in your shoes to see if I'd spend the extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    Don't they still create the encoding/decoding programs or formats, whatever the correct term might be?
    Yes, but that is basically all they do.
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