Bought Denon 2105 on Spec, Fiber Optics Question

[hershon]

I've started another thread on this as quite frankly for my Orb speakers the sound a JVC DVD 500 watts receiver- RX-DV31SL, produces superior sound quality for my tastes, whether people don't like me saying this or think I'm an idiot, I don't care, I know what my ears hear.

After that confusing demo that you did. It's almost impossible to test receivers for sound quality in a setting like that. Just to make you feel betting I've been unable to hear any significant difference in ANY receiver at the same price point. Heck, it's even hard to pick out the sound of a flagship receiver from a $700 unit. (that I HAVE done)

I am a little surprised that the Denon DVD player doesn't do DVD-Audio. Denon makes some outstanding DVD players, and I think it's a mistake on their part not to include DVD-Audio on their lower priced units.

If I were you I would return the $200 toslink cable AND the Denon DVD player. Tell them you want to exchange them for a BETTER Denon DVD player, one that does have DVD-Audio. I'm listening to DVD-Audio right now, and it's superior to CD sound in EVERY way.
A good unit like the Denon will probably use to 24/192khz DAC's for upsampling on regular CD's too, so you will get even better CD sound with a DVD-Audio capable unit.
I can't stress enough how much a quality source makes for better sound.

[shokhead]

Well then,why did you buy something else? I guess i forgot why. If it was for your bedroom,imo you overbought. You know,watts isnt what its all about. I guess you now have a room full of good A/V stuff.

[hershon]

Well then,why did you buy something else? I guess i forgot why. If it was for your bedroom,imo you overbought. You know,watts isnt what its all about. I guess you now have a room full of good A/V stuff.

I bought (& returned) the Denon2105 because quite frankly I got greedy & didn't realise what a good system I had- I've done the same thing with women and it has backfired on me. In this case, as I said, Iwas very happy with the sound quality of my JVC receiver when listening to my Orb's but thought I might even be able to get even better sound by improving on my receiver. The end result is, for my Orb Audio system, the Denon 2105, does not improve the quality for my ears from my JVC system and therefore I returned it. I can only speak for myself. Maybe someone else would hear the 2 systems differently through the Orb speakers, but I've got to do what is best for me.

[N. Abstentia]

I just find it very odd that you cheapened out on everything EXCEPT the one thing you should have cheapend out on. You paid $200 for a $10 optical cable but got a substandard DVD player! I've never been a fan of Denon players, you can get a better player for less money.

[hershon]

I just find it very odd that you cheapened out on everything EXCEPT the one thing you should have cheapend out on. You paid $200 for a $10 optical cable but got a substandard DVD player! I've never been a fan of Denon players, you can get a better player for less money.

You may be totally right. I relied on the salesman at the store and as I heard the system on that DVD player so I went with it.

The problem I'm beginning to perceive, is that maybe there is no universal right and wrong answers in regards to (some) audio matters & people hear things differently. For instance, Lensman & some other people seem to feel that for digital connections, its not really the DVD player that's affecting the sound but the receiver, a salesman at Shelly's a very high end store in LA says the opposite, you don't like Denon DVD players, etc., God I'm going mad!

[N. Abstentia]

You may be totally right. I relied on the salesman at the store and as I heard the system on that DVD player so I went with it.

The problem I'm beginning to perceive, is that maybe there is no universal right and wrong answers in regards to (some) audio matters & people hear things differently. For instance, Lensman & some other people seem to feel that for digital connections, its not really the DVD player that's affecting the sound but the receiver, a salesman at Shelly's a very high end store in LA says the opposite, you don't like Denon DVD players, etc., God I'm going mad!

Well, Lensman is right..when you're using a digital connection you're bypassing the DAC's in your player and you are relying completely on your receiver to do the decoding.

[kexodusc]

Hershon: It's clear to me you are looking to upgrade your system....why not upgrade the one area you can be sure will make a huge difference...SPEAKERS...If you can buy a $200 cable and a DVD player and a receiver, it sounds to me like you should have no problem at all buying speakers that suit you.
I'm sure the Orbs are fine, but to me, buying cables and players and receivers to improve a system's sound is the least effective way to do it. Live with what you've got or make a meaningful upgrade.