Bought Denon 2105 on Spec, Fiber Optics Question

[drseid]

What cable would you recommend? Thanks

Quite frankly, why not just buy one of those AR Toslink cables that go for about $15 at Best Buy....? I say that because you get higher quality construction than the cheapy Toslink cables that frequently come with DVD players... Sound quality will be the same on all of them, quite frankly.

BTW, as for your salesperson's comment about all the components should be the same, as that provides optimal sound quality...? That is total BS, I am afraid. That said, as Denon makes some of the best DVD players out there, in this case it looks like the "advice" may pay off, but it won't be because of any special "advantage." The only advantage is just that Denon makes good products. :-)

---Dave

[hershon]

I may have unintentionally misquoted the salesman here- after I had paid for everything, I all of a sudden had a Beavis and Butthead flash and realized I didn't ask the salesman whether or not the Denon DVD player played DVD-A & so when I asked him he said they didn't. I then was contemplating buying another DVD player & about the only one under $250 that played DVD-A was a Panasonic. The salesman advised me for the best sound on a denon receiver, I should stick to a Denon DVD player. Given that, DVD-A isn't all that important to me, I figured I'll stick to this & as it was only about $125 with the sales discount, if I ever replaced it I wouldn't lose any sleep. So my appologies, if I didn't explain this clear enough.

I started to attach my full bedroom set of 5 Orbs to the Denon and I started setting it up a bit, for which I confess II'm not 100% sure if I did this right. As I live in an apartment building, its too late now to hear the system on the speakers. I did listen to a CD via a headphone and also played the same CD through my JVC receiver via my headphone & I didn't notice much difference, if anything my JVC was warmer. Hopefully, this doesn't mean anything as the only thing that counts is if the sound will be significantly better hearing them on the speakers. I hate to say this, and everyone is just disregarding this as it sounds like I'm brain dead, but I'm beginning to think the JVC player for my tastes produces a better sound with Orb speakers than any other expensive receiver set up. If in fact that is true, the only thing I can attribute to that is that the owners/creators of Orb, specifically recommended for the best sound of Orb speakers to use the JVC RX-31DSL DVD receiver & maybe they knew what they were talking about. I'll try to get a more objective view when I listen to things in the morning & have both the Denon & JVC cued up to play the same CD album (albeit they're both CDR's of "Rubber Soul" for uniformity). Even then, if I don't notice much difference, my statement will be qualified as perhaps I need to tweak the Denon's settings like I did the JVC.

Quite frankly, why not just buy one of those AR Toshlink cables that go for about $15 at Best Buy....? I say that because you get higher quality construction than the cheapy Toshlink cables that frequently come with DVD players... Sound quality will be the same on all of them, quite frankly.

BTW, as for your salesperson's comment about all the components should be the same, as that provides optimal sound quality...? That is total BS, I am afraid. That said, as Denon makes some of the best DVD players out there, in this case it looks like the "advice" may pay off, but it won't be beacause of any special "advantage." the only advantage is just that Denon makes good products. :-)

---Dave

[shokhead]

I may have unintentionally misquoted the salesman here- after I had paid for everything, I all of a sudden had a Beavis and Butthead flash and realized I didn't ask the salesman whether or not the Denon DVD player played DVD-A & so when I asked him he said they didn't. I then was contemplating buying another DVD player & about the only one under $250 that played DVD-A was a Panasonic. The salesman advised me for the best sound on a denon receiver, I should stick to a Denon DVD player. Given that, DVD-A isn't all that important to me, I figured I'll stick to this & as it was only about $125 with the sales discount, if I ever replaced it I wouldn't lose any sleep. So my appologies, if I didn't explain this clear enough.

I started to attach my full bedroom set of 5 Orbs to the Denon and I started setting it up a bit, for which I confess II'm not 100% sure if I did this right. As I live in an apartment building, its too late now to hear the system on the speakers. I did listen to a CD via a headphone and also played the same CD through my JVC receiver via my headphone & I didn't notice much difference, if anything my JVC was warmer. Hopefully, this doesn't mean anything as the only thing that counts is if the sound will be significantly better hearing them on the speakers. I hate to say this, and everyone is just disregarding this as it sounds like I'm brain dead, but I'm beginning to think the JVC player for my tastes produces a better sound with Orb speakers than any other expensive receiver set up. If in fact that is true, the only thing I can attribute to that is that the owners/creators of Orb, specifically recommended for the best sound of Orb speakers to use the JVC RX-31DSL DVD receiver & maybe they knew what they were talking about. I'll try to get a more objective view when I listen to things in the morning & have both the Denon & JVC cued up to play the same CD album (albeit they're both CDR's of "Rubber Soul" for uniformity). Even then, if I don't notice much difference, my statement will be qualified as perhaps I need to tweak the Denon's settings like I did the JVC.

So you got the 2105,cool,its a nice reciever. You dont judge anything with headphones except the headphones. Remind me how many other expensive reciever setups you've listened to? So they made speakers that sound best with THAT reciever? Not likly. Get a Radio Shack spl meter and setup the Denon right. Spend a buck and get a DTS music disc and enjoy how good it will sound and put the JVC in the bedroom. Those DVD-A disc's you have still might work if they are also in DTS,just get into the disc menu and choose DTS if its there. Make sure you try the 5 channel stere on the Denon,i like it alot. Hope you got a good deal on the Denon,the cheapest i've seen is 499 at GG but they did have a open box for 429,not a bad deal. Take those cables back,if you had that much to spend,you should have gotten a better DVD player with DVD-A. Just use a basic dig toslink or coax. RS has them.

[Monstrous Mike]

Quite frankly, why not just buy one of those AR Toslink cables that go for about $15 at Best Buy....? I say that because you get higher quality construction than the cheapy Toslink cables that frequently come with DVD players... Sound quality will be the same on all of them, quite frankly.

BTW, as for your salesperson's comment about all the components should be the same, as that provides optimal sound quality...? That is total BS, I am afraid. That said, as Denon makes some of the best DVD players out there, in this case it looks like the "advice" may pay off, but it won't be because of any special "advantage." The only advantage is just that Denon makes good products. :-)

---Dave

Very good comments, Dave.

I have the Panasonic DVD-A player and am very happy with it.

[royphil345]

I'd say there will be little difference in sound between brands of DVD players when the audio is hooked up digitally. My advice, get a decent quality unit with alot of nice features. I would never pay $200.00 for an optical cable. I did pay $30.00 for a glass optical cable. Many people say they hear a difference with this cable. Many others would argue that that's impossible. At least here you're getting a glass cable that sells for less than many of the plastic ones. http://stores.ebay.com/24-7-MINIDISC...eNameZl2QQtZkm

I wouldn't be in such a hurry to upgrade your system. You could probably get sound that is a touch more open from a different brand of receiver. The difference will be slight and might not even sound good to your ears or in your room. Probably no need for a "flagship" receiver because the ORBs seem like they shouldn't be too difficult to drive. I don't know why it's so tempting to buy new stuff for your system when you're pretty satisfied with it the way it is. I do that too!!!