what speakers should i buy??

[tony340]

Fellows, i was told by many members to get brands like Definitive Technology and PSB etc, anyone got any further input to that??

[jrhymeammo]

Hey Tony340

Here is something you can read if you havent already.

http://forums.audioreview.com/showthread.php?t=4419

[tony340]

Ok, the Studio 20 are damn good speakers, but they are very pricey for Bookshelves, so i really cant afford stands as well, but there was this guy who said that ATACAMA shoes will do the job well kept on a shelf, what do you think guys????

[superpanavision70mm]

Well, I just looked at the dmc-electronics website and for $750 you could get ....

the PSB Image T55 for $649/pair or the PSB Image T65's for $813 if you wanted to spend a few more dollars. dmc-electronics is an authorized retailer for PSB, so I wouldn't shop anywhere else online.

[tony340]

Hey thanks mate for your help, i'll definitely try and audition them. I'm also thinking very seriously about the reference studio 20, i have asked about what you might think of fixing them with ATACAMA Shoes?? Anyone got any advice???

[tony340]

Thanks mate i'll definitely try and audition them. Anyone have any advice on my last post regarding the fixing of ATACAMA Shoes with the Reference Studio 20??? I'm now seriously looking at them studio 20's as well

[tem]

The shop u intend to auction the studio 20 also carries the JMlab range.They have a few models like chorus 706,707 bookshelf and tall standing 726 which are selling at clearing price.They also claim that the 707 is better than their Studio and cost about 2/3 the price of the studio 20.and the tall standing is about the same price as the 20s.

Compare and give us the feedbacks.

[musiclover60]

tony340,

Sorry I didn't respond sooner, overtime, kids, etc. The Def Tech models I mentioned were supposed to be BP8b, not BP88B. They do still have them on their web site, but , like you, I saw no dealer in Singapore. Checked the Vandersteen site (www.vandersteen.com) and they do have a dealer in Singapore:

Singapore CD Acoustic Equipment. Pte Ltd 1 Coleman Street # 04-02
Singapore 179803 Fax 65 336 2467 Phone 65 336 2467

You've obviously already found a place that sells Paradigm, and Polk, well you can find Polk almost anywhere.

happy Hunting

[PeruvianSkies]

I just checked the dmc-electronics site and they have a clearance pair of the PSB Image 7PT's just like mine for $650!!!! A great deal indeed...they list for $1500 and sound like speakers that are $3000-$4000.

[tony340]

Thanks fellows for the advice.. If i were to buy the Paradigm Reference Studio 20, what stands should i buy??
I cant afford VERY EXPENSIVE ONES, my budget is around USD100-120.
What do you think?

[accastil]

Thanks fellows for the advice.. If i were to buy the Paradigm Reference Studio 20, what stands should i buy??
I cant afford VERY EXPENSIVE ONES, my budget is around USD100-120.
What do you think?

tony, stands are just stands..and if youd ask me, they do not have any effect on the sonic performance of your studio 20s. put on top of anything and still theyd sound good...and that is because they are good speakers. buy the 20s and you wont regret it...they really do outperformed a lot of floorstanders, even those at a higher price category...and they mix very well with nad electronics.

[BadAssJazz]

tony, stands are just stands..and if youd ask me, they do not have any effect on the sonic performance of your studio 20s. put on top of anything and still theyd sound good...and that is because they are good speakers.

While I agree that the studio 20's are solid performers, the type of stands that you use WILL have a discernable difference that some folks will notice. I found this out while auditioning a pair of Tyler Acoustics monitors. There is no accounting for hearing and personal taste.

That said, whomever suggested that you should choose a monitor over a tower IN THIS PRICE RANGE is correct for the most part. Audition as much as possible, but don't get to the point where you suffer "paralysis by analysis." Don't be afraid to pull the trigger on a speaker purchase. The reality is you won't know how well your speakers perform until they are beyond their break-in period. And of course by that time, you'll probably catch the upgrade bug all over again.

Good luck and let us know what you finally decide.

[tony340]

Thank you so much Accastil, that really clears my mind. Really appreciate it, i think i'll take your advice and get them.
Cheers

[tony340]

There are this pair of KEF Q90'S and i thiught they sounded very good with NAD , think the Paradigm Reference Studio 20's are a much superior speaker than both the KEF IQ5 and the Q90?? Or compared with Mission 753 and M35i? I know that personal tastes differ but in an expert point of view which is the more superior of these??

[jrhymeammo]

in an expert point of view which is the more superior of these??

Dont worry, you already know the EXACT answer to what experts would recommend

There are this pair of KEF Q90'S and i thiught they sounded very good with NAD

Congratulation Tony, sounds like you finally found a pair you have been searching for. And the other great thing is that you heard it with NAD.

[jrhymeammo]

Give these are consideration

Monitor Audio S2
Jamo D430
Epos Acoustics M5
Castle Acoustics Richmond 3
Ruark Epilogue II
Monitor Audio S1
Acoustic Research AR15
Boston Acoustics VRB
Energy Loudspeakers C-3
JBL E50
JMLab 706BK
Mirage Loudspeakers FRXTHREEBK
Canton NESTOR 403 Bookshelf Speakers
Pinnacle Black Diamond
B&W DM601 S3
Jamo E825
PSB Speakers Century 800i
Canton LE107BK
Monitor Audio S10
Infinity Systems Alpha 50
Energy Loudspeakers e:XL 26
PSB Speakers Image 5T
PSB Speakers Image T45
Phase Technology V-12
Dynaudio Audience 40
Mission MSM74BK
Boston Acoustics VR 950
Dynaudio Audience 42
Polk Audio RTi12
Paradigm Monitor 7
Axiom Speaker Company Millennia M50 Ti
B&W DM 602 S2
Athena Technologies Audition AS-F2
Aperion Audio Intimus 533-PT
Magnepan MMG
JBL E100
Tannoy Mercury M2
and on and on and on and on.........

Keep looking
Or like someone said, you just gotta manup, and make a purchase once in a while.

-JRA

[tony340]

Hey JRA, you were the one who said go for the Studio 20's, so why isnt it there in your list of speaker options??????

[tony340]

And what exactly do the experts recommend??

[jrhymeammo]

Okay, so here is the thing.
I dont think you are asking for a real advice. I have to think you are just getting a kick out of it thru this thread. We all kept tell you to go with your heart/ears. You'll graciously agree. Then a day later, you'll ask the same godamn question asking us what the best speakers YOU would love for your budget. I dont think it has to do with your english ability. I'm to a point where I think you are just messing with us. Or you have some kinda issue.
Do you own a car? house? furniture? shoes? Or how about this, have you ever bought anything in your life based on your preference? If so how did you come about making that decision. Speaker decision is exactly the same. If all the purchases you made to this point in your life was soley based on what others may think of you for having them. Then you need to go else where. Sure I may have jumped the gun on that one(as usual) but I'm really confused.
Okay, let assume you are honestly looking to purchase a pair of speakers. I have to applaud you on your patience and desire to purchase the best possible speakers with your budget. I must inform you. There is no contract that says you have to live with your speakers for the rest of your life. Go take a chance on a pair of speakers you liked. If you dont like them, then upgrade. I dont think budget is your problem. Even if you were filthy rich and had $1,000,000 to spend on a pair of speakers, I dont think you'll ever find a pair you will be happy with until you die.
This is the last time I'll post on your thread. I understand that you never asked for my help, so i have to think it wouldnt hurt you at all not getting my help. I'm not speaking on behalf of everyone who posted here, but I have to think you are starting piss off/confusing everyone on this thread. No one here is going to come out and say ABC speakers are the best speakers everyone can ever buy. Not because they would sound like a cocky individual, but making such statment is impposible. I'll say this again. We all have different taste. You even agreed, but on the next sentese you asked again which is better. That is one of the reason why there are so many speaker companies.

So here is my last honest and well intended advice to you. Go with what you think sounded good. No one is going to think less of you for choosing Paradigm over KEF, KEF over Mission, or whatever. They are all GREAT. I think you know this but I'll make it clear. I am no expert here. 99.9% of members here are not experts either. But we know alot. Alot more than the most we walk past on streets. Everyone here has told you to go with your preference. Since you dont really have much audio experience, then take that advice from all the experts here.

Best luck to you and I truly mean that.

-JRA

[Rock789]

No one here is going to come out and say ABC speakers are the best speakers everyone can ever buy.

What about Bose

By the way you guys, i think i'll go with the Studio 20's

I would suggest focal jm lab chorus 716S for your pricerange, but the Studio 20's are nice too

[tony340]

Well JRA, to answer your questions, YES I DO OWN A CAR, its a BMW 7 SERIES and i made that decision because i'm a car enthusiast and i got the best for the money.
Yes i do own 3 Houses in South Africa, Singapore and Sri Lanka, i bought them because my Wife and i love what these countries have to offer and we made the best choice with the money, and i obviously have furniture (THAT WAS DUMB!!) And yes i do have several pairs of shoes,(THAT TOO WAS DUMB!!)I Obviously i was extremely offended by your remarks and i'm unable to say exactly how i feel because me vocabulary wont allow me to on this forum, which i think is a great one.
But none the less i must THANK YOU for your advice earlier and thats how i got to know about the Studio 20's and i think i'll get them.
But you really pissed me off and am glad that you wont be on this thread anymore.

[SlumpBuster]

Well JRA, to answer your questions, YES I DO OWN A CAR, its a BMW 7 SERIES and i made that decision because i'm a car enthusiast and i got the best for the money.
Yes i do own 3 Houses in South Africa, Singapore and Sri Lanka, i bought them because my Wife and i love what these countries have to offer and we made the best choice with the money, and i obviously have furniture (THAT WAS DUMB!!) And yes i do have several pairs of shoes,(THAT TOO WAS DUMB!!)I Obviously i was extremely offended by your remarks and i'm unable to say exactly how i feel because me vocabulary wont allow me to on this forum, which i think is a great one.
But none the less i must THANK YOU for your advice earlier and thats how i got to know about the Studio 20's and i think i'll get them.
But you really pissed me off and am glad that you wont be on this thread anymore.

why i mean will it go really well is because i'm trying to upgrade and there is no point if it just sounds ok. i know my budget is not really great to upgrade but i'm still only a student and therefore might only be able to afford second hand gear..

So, a guy with a BMW 7 series and 3 houses is now a student with only $600 bucks to blow on a new amp?

For those that may not know or have not read the thread, JRA accurately tagged this guy as a troll, and this was this piece of work's response.

I know a couple of guys with 7 series BMWs and not a one would fret over such a purchase, i.e. $600 amp to match $800 speakers. Their monthy bar tabs are more than that. Actually, they both own Lifestyle systems.


Tony, if you not a troll, then get an Arcam A65 integrated. They go for @ $500 and match extremely well with the 20. If you are a troll, as I think you are, then well.... feel my pwnage.

[tony340]

The Big Issue Here Is That Jra And Now As I See It The Slumpbuster Too Have Got Severe Attitude Problems, They Have Lost The Whole Point In This Forum As To Be Talking Of Audio Related Topics And Not This S**t.

Look I Dont Want To Kind Of Go Down To The Cheap Cock That These Two Members Want To Go Down To, Because My Vocabulary Wont Let Me To, So All I'm Asking Is Will The Audiolab 8000a Be A Good Match With The Studio 20's Or Is There Something Else I Should Get Instead???

And Just To Get To The Point Slumpbuster, You May Be Living In A Goddamn Country Where A Bmw 7 Series Would Cost Your Ass But Thanks To My Dad And Brother Who Are Two Of The Biggest Businessmen In The Country, I Have All That. The Audio Issue Is Is Something Of A Hobby That Has Got Hold Of Me Of Late And I'm Trying It The Hard Way By Trying To Work For It. In Fact If I Want Them To Buy It For Me Then I Really Dont Have To Be In This Forum Cos My Brother Owns Meridiens And Mcintosh Gear!! In Fact Please You Wonderful People At Ar, Please Dont Take This As A Bad Point, Cos I Really Think That These Guys Have Got It All Wrong That I'm A Troll, Just Trying To Build Up My Setup In An Honest Way, Not Just Asking My Dad To Do It For Me.but Getting It With A Little Sweat.

[tony340]

By the way you guys, i think i'll go with the Studio 20's, but i kind of need some advice on stands.
Can anyone tell me the Wood Technology agent in SIN?? I honestly tried but coudnt get any info..
What other stands can i get real cheap that will accomodate my speakers??

[accastil]

By the way you guys, i think i'll go with the Studio 20's, but i kind of need some advice on stands.
Can anyone tell me the Wood Technology agent in SIN?? I honestly tried but coudnt get any info..
What other stands can i get real cheap that will accomodate my speakers??

hi tony, if you are serious with home audio, i really believe youll be hooked into this as well as much as you did with cars...and based from your narrative, i know you can afford something even better. i recommond you to audition the paradigm reference signature series, preferably the S2...this is an upgrade of the studio20 and i personally think there is a discernable improvement in terms of sonic quality.

but then again, audio preference is very subjective. what maybe good to me may not be as good for you and vice-versa. just give them a listen and let us see what your thoughts are...they are really good when paired with musical fidelity components. the last one i heard has a musical fidelity 150w dual mono integrated amplifier and an audiolab 8000cd player. it was by far the best sounding digital set up i have ever heard eversince i started this enthusiasm with home audio. i just like the sonic character of paradigm speakers above all other brands...but that is just me. KEF is also good but i notice they lack the bass end, especially on their bookshelf models. JM lab also makes really good sounding bookshelves.

finally, later on you may want to venture into analog audio as well. you can do this by adding a turntable into your rack...this is where it gets more and more exciting and addictive at the same time enjoy!