False wall and audio sound

[Sir Terrence the Terrible]

And yet earlier:

Well, at least we now have a bit of specificity...your earlier response was shall we say a. er...vague, to the point of being downright misleading.

Doesn't look like the original poster was that confused. I personally think you are doing nothing more than fishing for a aurgument.

Also, That word "any"..."any"one reading your initial response replete with "THX" and "baffle walls"(love that jargon!) might actually come away from the encounter thinking, hey this guy says I can do it and it's no big deal. And what about "any" speaker enclosures whose front baffle design and cabinetry are used to minimize edge diffraction? Are we now going to defeat the designers purpose and simply surround the niche, alcove, hole, with wall treatment?...can it be done? Sure, maybe but, do try to keep your suggestions within the context of the posters plight...he's looking for a solution that will appease his sensibilites. Also, please...a wall is a wall is a wall is a wall...avoid the jargonistic "baffle" cr@p unless your intent is to, well... baffle!

It is not up to me to change language that is industry standard, its up to you to lean it.
Unless a person is being like you currently are(plain difficult) it is not that difficult. Being sorta behind the times regarding hometheater makes this for you more difficult than it is. Often old schoolers have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the present. We weren't speaking about alcoves, niches so I do not know why this is even being brought up, it muddies the issue. Since it is customary to completely surround the speakers with very thick acoustical foam, there isn't much interaction between the speaker and the wall itself. So much for your diffraction issue. Since you recognized that you are not in the business, I can tell that those who are alot further along the curve than you are. We are well aware if certain acoustical issue, and the are dealt with accordingly. Catch up man, catch up, there is actually light in the room. No need to stay in the dark ages.

Well, if you could get out of your soundbite mentality and take in the paragraph as a whole, perhaps you could come up with some sort, any sort of response...after all I'm simply "parroting" your earlier suggestions...Oh, how quickly they forget! And it does seem as though something got through, particularly in light of of your new-found specificity...as in your first quote above.

If I wanted a parrot, I would go to a pet store. You weren't doing anything but trying to stir up mess. This is exactly what I mean about the things you do. You are hijacking this thread, and trying to make this personal, and it will not be. If you are not going to contribute to this thread with actual information, then you intentions are pure hassle.

Infinite baffles? As old as hi-fi and maybe older, no argument...HOWEVER the drivers(mostly raw)and their specs( natural roll-off, compliance, etc.) are taken into account...Or do you refer to "baffles" used to break up room nodes...or is it apples and oranges?

I never mention infinite baffles, can you please stick to the topic at hand

Then we have "I am referring to THX certified ROOMS" and in the same breath "The speakers do not have to be THX certified". Are you trying to confuse or are you simply confused? In order to get the little "Certified HT" plaque from THX, dontcha' hafta' use certified gear? Or is it simply dependent on how much you pay your contractor?

The point I was trying to make(and am not surprised you don't get it) is that baffle walls are not a stranger to hometheater. That is it. THX is the only entity that actually certifies the practice, even though they didn't invent the concept. The room nor the equipment has to be THX certified to use a baffle wall in a installation. That is a matter of choice. My dog knows this.

Yeah, you can certainly buy acoustically "transparent" screens AND you can get THX cert. loudspeakers, again with compensatory circuitry, specifically for this purpose..

You don't need THX certified speakers, or speaker with any special circuits to do this. I have used a variety of speakers with baffle walls. You mind is just a little narrow, or is it that your hometheater education is lacking? I'll give you the choice.

.Once again, you can put your enclosures or drivers in any configuration you chose, but they need to be either designed for the purpose or mechanically/electronically manipulated to compensate for their environment. At the risk of repeating myself, our poster HAS some gear and has a question...we aren't back at the drawing board to lay out a budget, etc.

Your room is an enclosure isn't it? And doesn't it require compensation for nodes and modes? Can't you set a wide variety of speakers in your room? Is it required that speaker of a specific design go it specific kinds of rooms? The poster may have gear now, but he didn't state he was going to do this NOW, and may have different equipment when he does. Remember he says he is THINKING about it, not ready to do it now.

Mounted to or flush with? Were they intended for the purpose? Were our posters PSBs?

Did you even look at the samples I provided. Why are you asking me this stupid question? Look at the examples and you can see for yourself.

Again, the poster is looking for his speakers and his screen to lie in the same plane...yes, things can be done BUT what you suggest is irrelevant to the subject at hand, i.e. the poster's inquiry.

The poster got it, but he wasn't trying to hassle anyone. YOu are, so give me a break

Not being certain where on a scale of one to ten on the "exotique" meter the PSBs are, I kinda' think the "baffle concept" would not be an option.

Your point?

So I'd guess were no longer dealing in the realm of THX certification(which, as I recall, requires a minimal dB difference between ANY two spots in the soundfield)and are simply speaking of approximating the "sweet spot"...this is only difficult to do if you've never had experience with design or construction...I rely on my ability to do so, must be the artist in me.

Your point, or is this more I like to hear myself talk fluff?

As for your links...well, somehow I don't think we are dealing with the expenditure level required as indicated by the HTs they represent...I have the feeling it's probably a tad lower in our poster's case...getting into the fruit salad as usual?

The poster hasn't mention any budget, so how do you know what he is ready to deal with? When somebody proposes to build a baffle wall, they know it won't be a cheap affair. Please do not assume the poster is stupid.

The behind-the-screen baffle wall...geez I'm gettin tired of sayin' it but...say it with me now...designed for, designed for, designed for...The poster's PSBs, not so much..

Have you ever tried it? No you have not Say this with me, behind the times, behind the times, behind the times. I have actually done this with regular bookshelf and tower speakers. When you have even TRIED to do this, come talk to me. Otherwise you sound like a geriatric scared to learn how to do powerpoint. .

Re: the remainder of your attempts at insult and other sundry prattle...the poster's needs are relatively simple, the solution is not quite so, there are no generalties that apply and I have merely attempted to point that significant fact out...sorry if it bursts your over-inflated ballon.

I never said it was easy, and I don't think the poster thinks it is easy either. He asked if it can be done, and it can. You are just being difficult because you have never done this, and would be too scared to try.

Which begs the question, why is he HERE? and a second one which I will spare you, given your already somewhat bruised ego.

Ask him why he is here. Bruised ego, you can do that. You actually have to matter to bruise my ego. You don't matter, your irrelevant.

And of course we never really did touch on this issue:



jimHJJ(...and much like "Niagra", I sorta' kinda' knew we wouldn't...)

Based on this last quote, and the general body of you comments, this post is nothing more than harassment. This is not the off topic section, so you are expected to behave in a way that is not offensive to others. Your harassment is offensive, and I am going to ask you to stop it now. If you have some information to contribute, that is one thing. But you haven't added anything to this topic at all. If you do not have any information to add to the topic, please don't post. You are just cluttering up the site with a bunch of harassing comments, and not actually contributing. If you are going to challenge me with facts, that's one thing. If all you are going to do is clutter up the site with personal challenges, then maybe you need to step back and think about why you are here. The poster is satisfied with the answer I gave him, so this topic is pretty much closed in my book.