I once was LOST... and i don't want to be found (S5)

[Kam]

My brother-in-law gave me LOST, Season 4 in blu-ray for Xmas. The problem is I never saw Seasons 1 to 3. Will I have a difficult time understanding the story by starting out watching season 4.

Lost isn't so much of just a tv show as it is a mini(major)-series. season 1 is like a 23hour movie. with a few "stray" episodes here and there, it's a pretty seamless storyline all the way through the 4 seasons. and one heckuva fun ride!

i think all the episodes from season 1-4 are also available online at abc.com (which is the big issue with the impending sag strike going on)

[ForeverAutumn]

I'm rewatching last week's episodes. After Richard removes the bullet from Locke's leg, and tells him that they next time they meet Richard won't recognize Locke, time shifts again. When it stops, Locke looks around to get his bearings. He looks for the plane and it's there. And...you can see Smokey floating around it!

[kexodusc]

When it stops, Locke looks around to get his bearings. He looks for the plane and it's there. And...you can see Smokey floating around it!

We still don't really know what Ol' Smokey is exactly, some sort of weapon/defense system? A timeline enforcer?

I read one theory that basically suggested when people jump around in time and interfere with the past, the people of that time perceive them as Smokey, some form of monster, when really they're just changing the past. Interesting, dunno if it holds up cause why did it take on Eko?

That's one of the things I want answered before it's all over...that and the magic box...

[Kam]

We still don't really know what Ol' Smokey is exactly, some sort of weapon/defense system? A timeline enforcer?

I read one theory that basically suggested when people jump around in time and interfere with the past, the people of that time perceive them as Smokey, some form of monster, when really they're just changing the past. Interesting, dunno if it holds up cause why did it take on Eko?

That's one of the things I want answered before it's all over...that and the magic box...

and the four-toed statue!!!!

i was watching evangeline yummy lilly on letterman last night. typical no-answer stuff, dave had a great moment talking about season one where everyone was thinking, oh wow, what a show, and all these mysteries surrounding the island and what's going on and what's been happening to them.... (brief pause) now it's five years later... and.... what do we know?
ahhh comedy. it's funny.... cuz it's true.

[Kam]

"you're name is charles widmore?"

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i love this show.

[Worf101]

ANSWERS!!! WE GOT ANSWERS!!!!

1. We now know where Whidmore came from, his relation to the Island and why he's sooo effin hot to get back there. I thnk he and dark eyes were part of the original "others" probably part of the crew of the Black Galleon hence the British accents.

2.. Richard's been around since forever eh?

3. Whidmore, who's a punk assed biatch hates Ben cause Ben got the top spot HE coveted and somehow got him kicked off'n the Island. On that Island, you don't age and you don't die unless you're killed by violent action.

4. Desmond and Farraday seem able to slip in and out of time without the bad effects everyone else seem to catch.

5. Lesse who's been there. Ancient 4 toed peoples. Men from the Age of Sail. U.S. Army A-bomb men from the 50's. Russeau's lot. The Dharma initiative and the Losties. Not to mention the odd smuggler here or there. Busy place.

6. This show just cain't git no better.

Da Worfster

[Groundbeef]

What an episode. As usual, the writing was spot on.

Locke: You need to tell me how to get off the island.

Richard: I can't tell you that.

Locke: You already told me that I have to leave to save the island.

Richard: Well, I don't want to contridict myself but...

And the exchange between Locke, and Richard was also good when Locke said "Jacob sent me"

[ForeverAutumn]

"you're name is charles widmore?"

O
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G
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i love this show.

I KNOW! What a great moment! "I said, put the gun down Widmore"

I think that the young woman that took Faraday to the bomb is Mrs. Hawkings.

And we now know what was wrapped up in all that concrete at the Swan Station. So was the button in the hatch releasing a build-up of hydrogen? When the hatch exploded, was that the bomb detonating?

Who is Charlotte's Constant going to be? Or, will she die?

[Worf101]

Who is Charlotte's Constant going to be? Or, will she die?

Nope she must live because in the preview for next week I saw her huge forehead floating around behind Locke somewhere. Not since Sarah Michelle Geller has a woman who's supposed to be attractive given me so big a case of the creeps. You could land aircraft on that forehead.

Da Worfster

[Worf101]

Since the Losties are now rewriting history, does Widmore remember meeting Locke and friends now? Like Desmond does?

Da Worfster

[Groundbeef]

Since the Losties are now rewriting history, does Widmore remember meeting Locke and friends now? Like Desmond does?

Da Worfster

When has Widmore ever deny meeting/knowing any of them.

In fact, I think that Wimore remebers all of them. Remeber the warning he gave Desmond? Not to get mixed up in things that don't affect him?

[Kam]

Since the Losties are now rewriting history, does Widmore remember meeting Locke and friends now? Like Desmond does?

Da Worfster

i think so far, widmore hasn't met any of the Losties in 'normal' time. Widmore has had dealings only with Desmond and Sun so far. I can't remember, but i don't think widmore and locke have had any scenes together in seasons 1-4.

also, notice that giant "Namaste" painting in widmore's office. nice.

[Kam]

doesn't old widmore have an australian accent? why does young widmore have a british one?

[ForeverAutumn]

Nope she must live because in the preview for next week I saw her huge forehead floating around behind Locke somewhere. Not since Sarah Michelle Geller has a woman who's supposed to be attractive given me so big a case of the creeps. You could land aircraft on that forehead.

Da Worfster

LMAO!!!!

[ForeverAutumn]

So here's a question that has never been raised IIRC...

There's lots of speculation and discussion about who Faraday's mother is, but who (and where) is Penny's mother?

Hmmmmmm?

[Worf101]

So here's a question that has never been raised IIRC...

There's lots of speculation and discussion about who Faraday's mother is, but who (and where) is Penny's mother?

Hmmmmmm?

You have to had when to your question as well FA. Maybe her mom's that little gun totin' spitfire. Remember someone said she was "born" on the Island. Would make sense wouldn't it?

Da Worfster

[Kam]

You have to had when to your question as well FA. Maybe her mom's that little gun totin' spitfire. Remember someone said she was "born" on the Island. Would make sense wouldn't it?

Da Worfster

i think that was faraday's girlfriend who said she was born on the island. we don't know much of anything about Penny other than she loves desmond and doesn't get along with daddy widmore and can be one determined young gal when it comes to finding someone.

another question is gonna be the 'coming across themselves' time paradox thingy. in the promo for upcoming episodes, they showed Locke and crew walking through the jungle and looking over at the bright white light shooting into the sky... which i was guessing was the light from the hatch that desmond turned on while locke was pounding on the outside of the door...

[Kam]

Ok... so i'm gonna go back on my crazy off the wall prediction from a few seasons ago and change it.

RE: The Skeletons that jack found at the cave in season one when he was looking for his dad's coffin. previously i thought those would be Penny and Desmond's skeletons. Now i'm gonna say that those are Jack and Kate's skeletons.

And i'm gonna keep changing my prediction until i get it right in the end so i can say, see... i was right.

[topspeed]

Maybe Whidmore is pissed at Ben because Ben killed all his cronies with the nerve gas? If that was the Dharma folks in the mass grave, what did they do to the Brits??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far we've got the Whidmore's Brits, then Dharma, then the Others, then the Losties, right?

I want to know who Jacob is. Maybe Jacob is Locke from a previous time, which is why he sold himself to "Help/Save me?" The voices they are hearing are actually residuals from people traveling in the same spot, just in a different time?

It's interesting that the previous seasons used flashbacks/forwards to give background to characters and this season, they are using time jumps instead with the characters able to interact and change the scenario. What a great way to keep the continuity of the storytelling intact.

[ForeverAutumn]

From Sledgeweb's site. We all had our suspicions, but I didn't make all these connections....

Ever since last week when a time traveling Daniel Faraday told in-the-past Desmond to go find his mom, many have been speculating that his mother was the infamous Ms. Hawking. After all, they both share a love for chalkboards and math, so why not make the connection. Well, tonight we got some fairly solid proof that our suspicions were correct.

If you watched the repeat of 5x02 tonight, at the end when Ms. Hawking is shown, the popup message at the bottom of the screen identifies her as Eloise Hawking. This is the first time we've been given her first name.

So on tonight's episode a young 20-something girl captures Daniel and gang who we later find out are in 1954. The woman is referred to in the episode as Ellie. In another scene Daniel says to her "You look so much like..." and then he stops. He obviously recognized her. Our final clue that this young girl, Ellie, is not only Daniel's mom but also the temporal watcher Ms Hawking comes from remembering during last season when Daniel was doing the time experiments with the rats. His time traveling rat he gives the name of Eloise. I don't think you can shout any louder that this IS Daniel's mom.

[ForeverAutumn]

Jin's alive. YIPPEEEEEEEE!

[Groundbeef]

Jin's alive. YIPPEEEEEEEE!

Yes, but how does Ben know?

[Worf101]

Yes, but how does Ben know?

Good effin question... I'm pissed, more hunkage for FA and all I get is "Franny Forehead"... pheh... Slow episode last night but we at least see when Rouseau's crew showed up. She was preggers fore she go there and their ship went down like some others out there. Ben is the master mind f**ker in the history of modern television. What a devious chit. I want to rewind the episodes of Sayid kicking the livin' crap out of him....

I've never hated a character so much in my natural life...

Da Worfster

[kexodusc]

So would it be safe to assume the sickness that affected all of Rousseau's colleagues was the temporal displacement nosebleed aneurysm flu that everyone's catching?

Awesome tie-in. Does anyone remember if Rousseau had any awkward moments with Jin back in the first few seasons?

[Worf101]

So would it be safe to assume the sickness that affected all of Rousseau's colleagues was the temporal displacement nosebleed aneurysm flu that everyone's catching?

Awesome tie-in. Does anyone remember if Rousseau had any awkward moments with Jin back in the first few seasons?

Rousseau always seemed to be wandering around as if surrounded by snakes. She rarely, if ever, gave a straight answer about anything and always seemed to be staring at folks in wonderment that they didn't know her... curious.

As for the sickness... could be. Good question...

Da Worfster